Lost 1st gear - SV650.org

04-01-05, 11:40 AM

Ladies and gents I've lost first gear. If bike is in neutral it will downshift to first but when coming to a stop it will openly refuse to go into first gear. The lever travels all the way down and there is no clunk. It doesn't feel like its trying to engage its like there is nothing there and its travelling past first without engaging.

So I'm currently pulling away in second. I've also found that if in second and have give it some throttle it will then downshift to first.

Have adjusted clutch cable so it can't be that. I've also just changed oil and its only started happening after that, though as the cause i'm doubtful.

Ideas?

04-01-05, 11:43 AM

maybe the clutch has been adjusted too much?. Have you changed the types of Oil?? semi to full etc or mineral/synthetic???

04-01-05, 11:47 AM

also chech chain tention. the oyher thing you could try is whilst trying to select first ie hold your foot on the lever slowly release the clutch lever slightly that sometimes doesit, obviously hold the brake at this point also. and dont feed the clutch all the way out

BillyC · 04-01-05, 11:51 AM

What he said

jambo · 04-01-05, 12:24 PM

Try also rolling the bike back or forward a bit with your right foot while trying to click down into 1st with the left. a foot or so of travel should be fine, gearboxes can be sensitive to chain tention and you may find this rolling solves it. Also try and get into the habit of changing down while still rolling up to the place you intend to stop rather than trying to change once you're stationary.

BillyC · 04-01-05, 12:24 PM

... also, sounds like you might have overfilled the oil! Check it very carefully!

04-01-05, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zx6man

maybe the clutch has been adjusted too much?. Have you changed the types of Oil?? semi to full etc or mineral/synthetic???

Its Semi, still 10W40 but seems a lot thinner viscosity than the stuff I was using before. Castrol GTX from Morries at just £9.99 for 5 litres.

04-01-05, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jambo

Try also rolling the bike back or forward a bit with your right foot while trying to click down into 1st with the left. a foot or so of travel should be fine, gearboxes can be sensitive to chain tention and you may find this rolling solves it. Also try and get into the habit of changing down while still rolling up to the place you intend to stop rather than trying to change once you're stationary.

I do, and it won't find first! I end up stopping in second and pulling off in second

Chain tension is fine though I could have overfilled on the oil, I shall check this later. Im really thinking physical damage as this has never happened before - it seems to be travelling past first.

04-01-05, 12:43 PM

Sounds like the clutch adjustment to me.

Try adjusting more slack in to the lever and see if that solves the problem.

04-01-05, 12:44 PM

or possibly the scew adjustor behind the front sprocket cover is fooked. it was on my TL changed it and it cured the problem for me

04-01-05, 11:40 AM	#1
snoopy Guest Posts: n/a	Lost 1st gear Ladies and gents I've lost first gear. If bike is in neutral it will downshift to first but when coming to a stop it will openly refuse to go into first gear. The lever travels all the way down and there is no clunk. It doesn't feel like its trying to engage its like there is nothing there and its travelling past first without engaging. So I'm currently pulling away in second. I've also found that if in second and have give it some throttle it will then downshift to first. Have adjusted clutch cable so it can't be that. I've also just changed oil and its only started happening after that, though as the cause i'm doubtful. Ideas?

04-01-05, 11:51 AM	#4
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04-01-05, 12:24 PM	#5
jambo Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Croydonia Posts: 5,376	Try also rolling the bike back or forward a bit with your right foot while trying to click down into 1st with the left. a foot or so of travel should be fine, gearboxes can be sensitive to chain tention and you may find this rolling solves it. Also try and get into the habit of changing down while still rolling up to the place you intend to stop rather than trying to change once you're stationary. __________________ Modern motorcycles are bloody brilliant, enjoy it while we can

04-01-05, 12:24 PM	#6
BillyC Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The exiles of Kent Posts: 2,184	... also, sounds like you might have overfilled the oil! Check it very carefully! __________________ SV650 K3 - Gone. Now a member of the SV650.org Kawasaki brigade!

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04-01-05, 11:43 AM	#2
zx6man Guest Posts: n/a	maybe the clutch has been adjusted too much?. Have you changed the types of Oil?? semi to full etc or mineral/synthetic???

04-01-05, 11:47 AM	#3
Itching 2 go Guest Posts: n/a	also chech chain tention. the oyher thing you could try is whilst trying to select first ie hold your foot on the lever slowly release the clutch lever slightly that sometimes doesit, obviously hold the brake at this point also. and dont feed the clutch all the way out

04-01-05, 12:43 PM	#9
Mike1234 Guest Posts: n/a	Sounds like the clutch adjustment to me. Try adjusting more slack in to the lever and see if that solves the problem.

04-01-05, 12:44 PM	#10
Itching 2 go Guest Posts: n/a	or possibly the scew adjustor behind the front sprocket cover is fooked. it was on my TL changed it and it cured the problem for me