Crash bungs/mushrooms/protectors questions, lots of - SV650.org

18-11-06, 03:44 PM

I want to fit some crash bungs to my K5 naked SV650 (I've read a few tales of woe on the forum recently - "wish I'd fitted them BEFORE my crash", etc.) but I am a bit confused as to where they fit and how they work.

The normal ones on sale seem to be quite short, is this because they are meant for the fairing of a S bike ?

I've seen pictures of long ones - 4 or 5 cms - but can't remember where I saw them or where they fitted. Do they replace the bolts which hold the engine to the frame, if so are they a direct replacement with longer bolts supplied and easy to fit ?

Can you have them in any or all the engine mount holes (I must intend to crash a lot !) ?

Which material is best, nylon ? acetal ? Titanium ?

Are the Suzuki OEM ones any good ? What about motosliders ? R & G ? What about prices ?

If fitted to the swing arm I can see how they would protect the chain side, but surely the exhaust would hit the ground first on the other side?

In a normal low impact drop would they protect the bar ends, levers and mirrors?

TSM · 18-11-06, 03:49 PM

Most usefull crash bungs tend to be around 8-10cm long from the frame. Motosliders seem to have a good rep, there also seems to be others called Motovation which look near enough the same as motosliders. R&Gs on the new design (only ones sold now) are ment to be better than the old ones, but i am still not convinced. Steel crash protectors are good as long as the bike does not hit a curb or pothole when it slides as then it wont snap and all the force will be transfered to the frame and damage that.

18-11-06, 04:09 PM

Ive got RnGs on both my sv and my zx9, wouldnt have anything else imo.

18-11-06, 04:39 PM

I've also had a 30 mph spill with GSC Moko sliders and they hardly looked touched...

18-11-06, 05:15 PM

ive bought RnGs im just getting round to fitting them

18-11-06, 05:32 PM

I've got R&Gs on my naked, and they saved mt pride and joy from more damage when I layed it down on some ice at about 30mph last chrimbo

. All that was damaged was an indicator, slight scrape to my brake lever and a broken brake pedal. Piece of pee to fit too.

Highly recommended!

18-11-06, 07:22 PM

Very pleased with my R&Gs, great fit & very easy-and I'm a complete novice

Although these are on a fully faired. Also have bar ends and cotton reels for the same reason-again very easy to fit (provided you've a decent socket set).

Not had a tumble so can't truly comment on how effective they are-but reports generally favourable.

General consensus is that in the vast majority of cases they'll save MUCH more damage than they would ever cause, but there are some rare occasions where they might bend the frame-although you'd be likely to need to give 'em a big wack so that the bike would be a near write off anyway.

Still some people prefer to go without for this reason.

On a naked you could also consider an engine guard (popular with bike schools) like this official suzuki one:

http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/2...torsbuegel.jpg

Andy

northwind · 18-11-06, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dysparunia

General consensus is that in the vast majority of cases they'll save MUCH more damage than they would ever cause, but there are some rare occasions where they might bend the frame-although you'd be likely to need to give 'em a big wack so that the bike would be a near write off anyway.

I don't see the R&Gs ever causing damage. I don't think they're very good bungs but that bracket design's superb.

DavieSV · 18-11-06, 09:07 PM

I've just fitted R&G's to my k5 pointy
They protude 130mm from the frame (bit ugly but should do the job)
Great design using two mounting points on both sides & easy to fit

Only consern is that they replace Suzuki's steel through engine mounting bolt with a stainless steel one, which from a corrosion point of view is great, but I'm a bit worried about the torque setting as stainless steel is a bit softer than steel and streaches a bit different

Anyone know if the torque setting of 93Nm is correct? don't want to over streach the threads

18-11-06, 09:27 PM

R&G's are good, i have them on my bike. Not tested them yet though

As for materials, the metal will slide a bit better along the ground perhaps, but there is a risk that they can snap a little easier (metal dosnt have as much elasticity as plastics). I think mine are nylon, and dense nylon has good strength and abrasion properties.

Titanium ones would look best in a crash, all those sparks

Matt

18-11-06, 03:44 PM	#1
oldjack Guest Posts: n/a	Crash bungs/mushrooms/protectors questions, lots of I want to fit some crash bungs to my K5 naked SV650 (I've read a few tales of woe on the forum recently - "wish I'd fitted them BEFORE my crash", etc.) but I am a bit confused as to where they fit and how they work. The normal ones on sale seem to be quite short, is this because they are meant for the fairing of a S bike ? I've seen pictures of long ones - 4 or 5 cms - but can't remember where I saw them or where they fitted. Do they replace the bolts which hold the engine to the frame, if so are they a direct replacement with longer bolts supplied and easy to fit ? Can you have them in any or all the engine mount holes (I must intend to crash a lot !) ? Which material is best, nylon ? acetal ? Titanium ? Are the Suzuki OEM ones any good ? What about motosliders ? R & G ? What about prices ? If fitted to the swing arm I can see how they would protect the chain side, but surely the exhaust would hit the ground first on the other side? In a normal low impact drop would they protect the bar ends, levers and mirrors?

18-11-06, 03:49 PM	#2
TSM The Sick Man Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Peckham.SE.LDN Posts: 4,768	Most usefull crash bungs tend to be around 8-10cm long from the frame. Motosliders seem to have a good rep, there also seems to be others called Motovation which look near enough the same as motosliders. R&Gs on the new design (only ones sold now) are ment to be better than the old ones, but i am still not convinced. Steel crash protectors are good as long as the bike does not hit a curb or pothole when it slides as then it wont snap and all the force will be transfered to the frame and damage that. __________________ OTR: KTM 690 Duke R 2015 Full Akro SIDELINE: Kwak ZX636 A1P 2002, Red, R&G's, Yoshi, Double Bubble Screen GONE: Kwak ZX-7R P1, Full Akro, Undertray, Screen GONE: SV650S K2 Very Bruised & Without Fairing, Motovation Frame Sliders, R&G Ally Sprocket Toe Protector, HEL 2 Line Setup, GSXR K1 600 RWU Forks, Barnett Clutch & Springs, Penske 8981 Shock, Gilles Ti Rearsets, Steel Barends, Scottoiler, AFAM Chain & Sprockets, Twin FIAMM Horns, Skidmarx Bellypan, Full Micron Zeta Steel System, Cut down undertay. Forum Problems & Information / Site Suggestions

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18-11-06, 04:09 PM	#3
Paws Guest Posts: n/a	Ive got RnGs on both my sv and my zx9, wouldnt have anything else imo.

18-11-06, 04:39 PM	#4
Grinch Guest Posts: n/a	I've also had a 30 mph spill with GSC Moko sliders and they hardly looked touched...

18-11-06, 05:15 PM	#5
rob13 Guest Posts: n/a	ive bought RnGs im just getting round to fitting them

18-11-06, 05:32 PM	#6
Bear Guest Posts: n/a	I've got R&Gs on my naked, and they saved mt pride and joy from more damage when I layed it down on some ice at about 30mph last chrimbo . All that was damaged was an indicator, slight scrape to my brake lever and a broken brake pedal. Piece of pee to fit too. Highly recommended!

18-11-06, 07:22 PM	#7
Dysparunia Guest Posts: n/a	Very pleased with my R&Gs, great fit & very easy-and I'm a complete novice Although these are on a fully faired. Also have bar ends and cotton reels for the same reason-again very easy to fit (provided you've a decent socket set). Not had a tumble so can't truly comment on how effective they are-but reports generally favourable. General consensus is that in the vast majority of cases they'll save MUCH more damage than they would ever cause, but there are some rare occasions where they might bend the frame-although you'd be likely to need to give 'em a big wack so that the bike would be a near write off anyway. Still some people prefer to go without for this reason. On a naked you could also consider an engine guard (popular with bike schools) like this official suzuki one: http://www.suzuki-gb.co.uk/uploads/2...torsbuegel.jpg Andy

18-11-06, 09:07 PM	#9
DavieSV Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ripley Derbyshire Posts: 596	I've just fitted R&G's to my k5 pointy They protude 130mm from the frame (bit ugly but should do the job) Great design using two mounting points on both sides & easy to fit Only consern is that they replace Suzuki's steel through engine mounting bolt with a stainless steel one, which from a corrosion point of view is great, but I'm a bit worried about the torque setting as stainless steel is a bit softer than steel and streaches a bit different Anyone know if the torque setting of 93Nm is correct? don't want to over streach the threads

18-11-06, 09:27 PM	#10
Alpinestarhero Guest Posts: n/a	R&G's are good, i have them on my bike. Not tested them yet though As for materials, the metal will slide a bit better along the ground perhaps, but there is a risk that they can snap a little easier (metal dosnt have as much elasticity as plastics). I think mine are nylon, and dense nylon has good strength and abrasion properties. Titanium ones would look best in a crash, all those sparks Matt