Do you routinely overtake over solid whites? - SV650.org

12-11-06, 05:23 PM

Was bimbling back from mums this afternoon (yum yum, lamb dinner) and there's a three mile stretch of A road that's got no overtaking lines all the way pretty much. I usually chill out and go with the flow cos I can't get round (or so I assumed). A couple of power rangers came up behind me on gixxers and just went over the lines to overtake with impunity, do you do that?

I've got to say, it didn't actually look unsafe, they were round the cars very quick with a reasonable level of risk. My car miles outweigh my bike miles by 20 to 1 so I guess I'm 'car programmed'.

glade · 12-11-06, 05:33 PM

I do cross them from time to time if i can see that the road is clear. Most of the time cars move over and you can overtake without crossing the line.

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Originally Posted by Highway Code

www.highwaycode.gov.uk

85-134: General rules, techniques and advice for all drivers and riders
106-111: Lines and lane markings in the road

107: Double white lines where the line nearest to you is broken. This means you may cross the lines to overtake if it is safe, provided you can complete the manoeuvre before reaching a solid white line on your side. White arrows on the road indicate when you need to get back onto your side of the road.

108: Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.
Laws RTA sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10 & 26

12-11-06, 05:37 PM

I never everdo..

and I always get back in before the arrows.!

12-11-06, 05:37 PM

I got 3 points, ~£200 in fees/fines and a new A-Hole once for crossing where there was a solid white line ... It's safe to say that now, no, no, I never cross lines!!

and the occasions where I am in stationary traffic and can see nothing is coming it really really piddles me off!!!

but 2 A-Holes are enough for any man!!

I overtake all the time between the car and the white line though (which as mentioned IS legal

) ...

12-11-06, 05:49 PM

no .but i will go between the car im overtaking and the white line if theres enough room(and nothing coming the other way) ,but generally no

Biker Biggles · 12-11-06, 05:55 PM

I tend not to either,but the daft thing is it's far more dangerous to do a "close overtake"between car and white lines as you have poorer visibility and the car often wanders within it's lane.Much safer to get right over the other side even if it is illegal.

12-11-06, 06:06 PM

i have done it, but i dont do it much........honest officer

12-11-06, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

I tend not to either,but the daft thing is it's far more dangerous to do a "close overtake"between car and white lines as you have poorer visibility and the car often wanders within it's lane.Much safer to get right over the other side even if it is illegal.

To true - last time I filtered this way I got knocked off from an ijiot doing a U turn. The traffic I was overtaking was crawling along - I rolled off the bike into the oncoming outside double lane. The oncoming traffic the other way would have cleaned me up if there was any.

So I learnt my lesson and now take the approach of a safer opportunity being just around the next corner

12-11-06, 06:16 PM

Routinely, no, but that doesn't mean I won't, I've just found that the ones I encounter on my daily commute are fairly well placed and even in the bits where there are normal lines, it's simply not safe to overtake.

12-11-06, 06:26 PM

This had been dicussed in some depth before, but to reiterate, I simply overtake, when and where it is safe to do so. I no longer have any faith in government personnel deciding what's safe or unsafe; I rely upon observation, the conditions, and my experience, to make a balanced decision about every single manoeuvre regardless of when or where.

If anyone (after gaining reasonable experience) is totally reliant on road signs to decide how they ride a motorcycle, then they're most likely a danger to themselves and others. Yes this might seem a little controversial, but I truly believe it to be true.

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12-11-06, 05:23 PM	#1
arenalife Guest Posts: n/a	Do you routinely overtake over solid whites? Was bimbling back from mums this afternoon (yum yum, lamb dinner) and there's a three mile stretch of A road that's got no overtaking lines all the way pretty much. I usually chill out and go with the flow cos I can't get round (or so I assumed). A couple of power rangers came up behind me on gixxers and just went over the lines to overtake with impunity, do you do that? I've got to say, it didn't actually look unsafe, they were round the cars very quick with a reasonable level of risk. My car miles outweigh my bike miles by 20 to 1 so I guess I'm 'car programmed'.

12-11-06, 05:55 PM	#6
Biker Biggles Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Barnet Herts Posts: 5,071	I tend not to either,but the daft thing is it's far more dangerous to do a "close overtake"between car and white lines as you have poorer visibility and the car often wanders within it's lane.Much safer to get right over the other side even if it is illegal. __________________ On a clear day we stand there and look further than the ordinary eye can see.

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12-11-06, 05:37 PM	#3
Quiff Wichard Guest Posts: n/a	I never everdo.. and I always get back in before the arrows.!

12-11-06, 05:37 PM	#4
Blue_SV650S Guest Posts: n/a	I got 3 points, ~£200 in fees/fines and a new A-Hole once for crossing where there was a solid white line ... It's safe to say that now, no, no, I never cross lines!! and the occasions where I am in stationary traffic and can see nothing is coming it really really piddles me off!!! but 2 A-Holes are enough for any man!! I overtake all the time between the car and the white line though (which as mentioned IS legal ) ...

12-11-06, 05:49 PM	#5
jim@55 Guest Posts: n/a	no .but i will go between the car im overtaking and the white line if theres enough room(and nothing coming the other way) ,but generally no

12-11-06, 06:06 PM	#7
hovis Guest Posts: n/a	i have done it, but i dont do it much........honest officer

12-11-06, 06:16 PM	#9
Carsick Guest Posts: n/a	Routinely, no, but that doesn't mean I won't, I've just found that the ones I encounter on my daily commute are fairly well placed and even in the bits where there are normal lines, it's simply not safe to overtake.

12-11-06, 06:26 PM	#10
jonboy Guest Posts: n/a	This had been dicussed in some depth before, but to reiterate, I simply overtake, when and where it is safe to do so. I no longer have any faith in government personnel deciding what's safe or unsafe; I rely upon observation, the conditions, and my experience, to make a balanced decision about every single manoeuvre regardless of when or where. If anyone (after gaining reasonable experience) is totally reliant on road signs to decide how they ride a motorcycle, then they're most likely a danger to themselves and others. Yes this might seem a little controversial, but I truly believe it to be true. .