Would you (part 2)? CB250 - SV650.org

07-08-08, 04:35 PM

Classic bikes (i think its a classic, Rictus disagrees

) anyone else into them

btw - Mark - this is the one we spoke about ....

Sid Squid · 07-08-08, 04:48 PM

Rictus is right, it's not a classic it's just old, and that one is an early example, (the kicker gives it's age away, later ones didn't have that), of the less than wonderful 'Super Dream'.

Super?

Dream?

Hmmmmmmm...

A Triumph Speed Twin is a classic, A BSA Gold Star is a classic, a CB250N was horrid when it was new and time has done nothing to improve the situation. However as they're famously reliable, it's possibly good hack material, but nothing more

Don't be fooled, old does not equal classic.

07-08-08, 04:49 PM

I'd have one in a second for a runabout or winter bike.

Biker Biggles · 07-08-08, 04:51 PM

Might be good for someone on a 33 bhp restriction.
Second thoughts no not even good for that.Avoid it.

07-08-08, 05:20 PM

Ian, Mark and all other venerable sages...when i wasa lad ( a few years ago, tis true

) the oldest lad as scouts had one, and he took me on the back for a burn round the Suffolk stix and twas an inexperience etched on my mind ....one day Ill have one of those... and have one i will !

PS what about the asking price...... £175 ????

07-08-08, 05:35 PM

Brilliantly awful bikes. I had the 'pleasure' of CB250N ownership!!

At least it could be kicked straight after an accident!

Try that with your fancy GSXCBZXFZYZR9000RRRRR!

jambo · 07-08-08, 05:54 PM

For a bike to be a classic, I'm fairly sure it had to be aspirational at the time. A B-reg ford fiesta, for instance, is not a classic....

You wanted one because someone you looked up to had one, this is why you're horribly mistaken about it.

HTH

Jambo

07-08-08, 06:05 PM

i didnt look up to him , he was 17 and still in the scouts f chrissakes !!!!

no, i liked the bike tho....

so, what is a classic bike ? Definition time

rictus01 · 07-08-08, 06:46 PM

Arh the age old question " what's a classic"

Because it really isn't defined by anybody it's often abused, but generally it's seen in two lights, either age or rare & desirable.

On the first the VMCC defines the earlier machines as this
"The definition of a veteran bike depends on when it was made, a pre-1915 bike is a veteran bike and post-1915 is a vintage one." and is seen as the benchmark.

Age wise the top end of Vintage is seen as around the late 40's(some say pre-war, but as design didn't change much in that period, it's much the same thing), beyond that the term classic comes into play, however early jap stuff (from the late 60's) also falls into this band by some.

rare & desirable, well something like the rotory Nortons or perhaps some of the race bikes from the 70's-80's might be included.

I don't think anywhere there covers the CB250N superdream do you ? I think possibly the early K series CB750 of 68 may well qualify, mainly for the impact the bike had in this country.

Cheers Mark.

BillyC · 07-08-08, 07:00 PM

Many people tell me that the 250 Superdream is a classic... I have one lying around somewhere. Others tell me otherwise... I've ridden it, and it's crap - so it must be a classic of sorts

07-08-08, 04:48 PM	#2
Sid Squid No, I don't lend tools. Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Skunk Works, Nth London Posts: 8,680	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 Rictus is right, it's not a classic it's just old, and that one is an early example, (the kicker gives it's age away, later ones didn't have that), of the less than wonderful 'Super Dream'. Super? Dream? Hmmmmmmm... A Triumph Speed Twin is a classic, A BSA Gold Star is a classic, a CB250N was horrid when it was new and time has done nothing to improve the situation. However as they're famously reliable, it's possibly good hack material, but nothing more Don't be fooled, old does not equal classic. __________________ If an SV650 has a flat tyre in the forest and no-one is there to blow it up, how long will it be 'til someone posts that the reg/rec is duff and the world will end unless a CBR unit is fitted? A little bit of knowledge = a dangerous thing. "a deathless anthem of nuclear-strength romantic angst"

07-08-08, 04:49 PM	#3
dirtsk8 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 I'd have one in a second for a runabout or winter bike.

07-08-08, 04:51 PM	#4
Biker Biggles Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Barnet Herts Posts: 5,071	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 Might be good for someone on a 33 bhp restriction. Second thoughts no not even good for that.Avoid it. __________________ On a clear day we stand there and look further than the ordinary eye can see.

07-08-08, 05:20 PM	#5
pete m Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 Ian, Mark and all other venerable sages...when i wasa lad ( a few years ago, tis true) the oldest lad as scouts had one, and he took me on the back for a burn round the Suffolk stix and twas an inexperience etched on my mind ....one day Ill have one of those... and have one i will ! PS what about the asking price...... £175 ????

07-08-08, 05:35 PM	#6
Jester666 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 Brilliantly awful bikes. I had the 'pleasure' of CB250N ownership!! At least it could be kicked straight after an accident! Try that with your fancy GSXCBZXFZYZR9000RRRRR!

07-08-08, 05:54 PM	#7
jambo Member Mega Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Croydonia Posts: 5,376	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 For a bike to be a classic, I'm fairly sure it had to be aspirational at the time. A B-reg ford fiesta, for instance, is not a classic.... You wanted one because someone you looked up to had one, this is why you're horribly mistaken about it. HTH Jambo __________________ Modern motorcycles are bloody brilliant, enjoy it while we can

07-08-08, 06:05 PM	#8
pete m Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 i didnt look up to him , he was 17 and still in the scouts f chrissakes !!!! no, i liked the bike tho.... so, what is a classic bike ? Definition time

07-08-08, 06:46 PM	#9
rictus01 Member Mega Poster Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South London Posts: 9,799	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 Arh the age old question " what's a classic" Because it really isn't defined by anybody it's often abused, but generally it's seen in two lights, either age or rare & desirable. On the first the VMCC defines the earlier machines as this "The definition of a veteran bike depends on when it was made, a pre-1915 bike is a veteran bike and post-1915 is a vintage one." and is seen as the benchmark. Age wise the top end of Vintage is seen as around the late 40's(some say pre-war, but as design didn't change much in that period, it's much the same thing), beyond that the term classic comes into play, however early jap stuff (from the late 60's) also falls into this band by some. rare & desirable, well something like the rotory Nortons or perhaps some of the race bikes from the 70's-80's might be included. I don't think anywhere there covers the CB250N superdream do you ? I think possibly the early K series CB750 of 68 may well qualify, mainly for the impact the bike had in this country. Cheers Mark. __________________ Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow! What a Ride! Last edited by rictus01; 07-08-08 at 06:48 PM.

07-08-08, 07:00 PM	#10
BillyC Moderator Mega Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The exiles of Kent Posts: 2,184	Re: Would you (part 2)? CB250 Many people tell me that the 250 Superdream is a classic... I have one lying around somewhere. Others tell me otherwise... I've ridden it, and it's crap - so it must be a classic of sorts __________________ SV650 K3 - Gone. Now a member of the SV650.org Kawasaki brigade!

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