Should advice ever be prescriptive?

[Balky001]

Thanks for your advice orgers. I'm going to give him my RST kevlar jeans with the CE armour and he has a proper jacket etc.

I will be riding very cautiously of course, you are right, I'd feel responsible if he was chasing me (that's why I'm not inviting anyone else on the ride so I can control the speed better!).

I'm buying new tyres for my bike and offered him my exisiting ones (only 2500 miles on BT012 & loads left and only a year old!)

[Winder]

Maxxis supermaxx sport tyres are about £130 a pair last time I got some, that's half the price of most brands and they are very good quality too. Tell him to bang it on a credit card and worry about it next month.

The bloke that got me into bikes told me "Spend your money on the best tyres, brakes and oil you can afford, then worry about buying food."

[Fallout]

Mate, if you think its that bad, lie to him. Tell him you mentioned it to some other biker mates and they told you stories about tyres blowing out and people dying from old rubber. Little white lies for the greater good and all that. It probably won't stop him riding it, but it might encourage him to take it easy and prioritise it as his next purchase.

Case in point, one of the GM lot has recently put his restrictor back on when he had been riding naughtily for a while. The crux of his decision was examples from other ORGans of how they would've lost their licenses if they had been derestricted due to checks after accidents etc. Telling people they shouldn't do something generally doesn't work. Providing them with the reality of it is more effective.

Ya know, I smoke. Want to quit, but struggle to find the incentive. Put me in front of someone dying of lung cancer on an O2 cylinder and I know I'd quit that same day. At the moment my brain is happy to live in lah lah land.

You are responsible for your OWN actions, if you gave advice and it's ignored, at least your conscience is clear.

I taught a mate of mine to ride, never been on a bike before, not really into them but sold it to him on a commuter side, been green laning with us etc, but I would've felt proper guilty if something happened to him while riding, so I understand where you're coming from.


Fallout, stop smoking, I've lost both my parents to lung cancer, it's not nice at all, I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

I have the same with my dad. He is riding round on a tyre that hasnt seen the road in 9 years, its hard as hell(before last month when he got on it) and its right squared off, but he doesnt listen. Same when i tell him after a 25 year gap of no riding until now, he needs advanced training, he doesnt listen. Its an annoyance but what can ya do!

Originally Posted by Fallout

Case in point, one of the GM lot has recently put his restrictor back on when he had been riding naughtily for a while. The crux of his decision was examples from other ORGans of how they would've lost their licenses if they had been derestricted due to checks after accidents etc. Telling people they shouldn't do something generally doesn't work. Providing them with the reality of it is more effective.

Ya know, I smoke. Want to quit, but struggle to find the incentive. Put me in front of someone dying of lung cancer on an O2 cylinder and I know I'd quit that same day. At the moment my brain is happy to live in lah lah land.

Said person on an sv with a gp style can by any chance?

[tonyk]

Originally Posted by Fallout

Mate, if you think its that bad, lie to him. Tell him you mentioned it to some other biker mates and they told you stories about tyres blowing out and people dying from old rubber. Little white lies for the greater good and all that. It probably won't stop him riding it, but it might encourage him to take it easy and prioritise it as his next purchase.

Ya know, I smoke. Want to quit, but struggle to find the incentive. Put me in front of someone dying of lung cancer on an O2 cylinder and I know I'd quit that same day. At the moment my brain is happy to live in lah lah land.

Lie to him...the greater good and all.
Stop smoking IS the best thing you could ever do for your self....
check
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[Bibio]

devils advocate...

if he cant afford tyres how is he going to afford maintaining the bike.

Originally Posted by stuR

Said person on an sv with a gp style can by any chance?

Unfortunately I don't believe its who your thinking of, I believe its the young chap on the bright orange curvy Fallout is talking about.

Ah a shame in one way if so, thoughy he might of realised that mistake after alot of people on here said that wast cool. But good for the other guy.

I can further confirm he's now somehow faster restricted than he ever was with full power.


Not quite sure what's happened there.