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Old 27-06-06, 09:00 AM   #41
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Let it go. Done and dusted.

Someone explain this:

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Seen all the conspiracy videos.

What I don't understand is:

Supposedly these where commercial airlines/flights. So there were loads of people on that plane. Therefore the terrorists where hugely outnumbered.

Now regardless of what weapon exactly they had - 1 person can't fight off 20 people at a time. Not even if he has a Handgun. (Beretta they have maximum 22 rounds)

When you are in a life death situation your basic instincts kick in - the urge to live.

People knew that the plane has been hijacked - WHY DID NOBODY ON THE PLANE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT????
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Old 27-06-06, 09:01 AM   #42
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Lyn, you have your views, I have mine. Please don't tell me what to read, and if I don't like what I read I'm free to comment, whether you like it or not. Sorry if that upsets you but that's life.
Steve, it takes a lot to upset me and when something does its usually because Im going through a bad patch irl and forget not to take the internet seriously.

I wasnt "telling" you what to read and what not it was merely a suggestion which may make your time on here better for not reading threads which you dont think should be here.

But I was just pointing out that while you consider the two people concerned as trouble makers and so justify what you did, it still doesnt change the fact that your posts were not constructive or harmonious to the forum.

You can keep ignoring this if you wish but end of the day, you were not posting with forum harmony in mind when you made those posts. So I dont think youre in a position to really criticise others now.

While I adhere to people having the right to express an opinion, I also adhere to the fact people should have a right to challenge it if its questionable in their opinion or questionable factually, its what makes the place interesting.

I freely admit my sarcasm got the better of me yesterday and I came across wrong on the forum. I will endeavour to write with more clarity, simplicity and tact in future.
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Old 27-06-06, 09:03 AM   #43
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Let it go. Done and dusted.

Someone explain this:

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Originally Posted by PatrickUK
Seen all the conspiracy videos.

What I don't understand is:

Supposedly these where commercial airlines/flights. So there were loads of people on that plane. Therefore the terrorists where hugely outnumbered.

Now regardless of what weapon exactly they had - 1 person can't fight off 20 people at a time. Not even if he has a Handgun. (Beretta they have maximum 22 rounds)

When you are in a life death situation your basic instincts kick in - the urge to live.

People knew that the plane has been hijacked - WHY DID NOBODY ON THE PLANE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT????
Because most Hi-jackings result in demands being made in exchange for hostages lives. I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people on board the plane that they were about to plow into a sky scraper.
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Old 27-06-06, 09:07 AM   #44
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it still doesnt change the fact that your posts were not constructive or harmonious to the forum.
In your opinion. Like I said, I'm obiously not the only one who feels that way. Funny when I'm in company of users they tell me "well said"

Whatever......

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Old 27-06-06, 09:08 AM   #45
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They played phone conversations passengers had with their families on american TV.
All of them stating "We are going to die"
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Old 27-06-06, 09:09 AM   #46
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Let it go. Done and dusted.

Someone explain this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by PatrickUK
Seen all the conspiracy videos.

What I don't understand is:

Supposedly these where commercial airlines/flights. So there were loads of people on that plane. Therefore the terrorists where hugely outnumbered.

Now regardless of what weapon exactly they had - 1 person can't fight off 20 people at a time. Not even if he has a Handgun. (Beretta they have maximum 22 rounds)

When you are in a life death situation your basic instincts kick in - the urge to live.

People knew that the plane has been hijacked - WHY DID NOBODY ON THE PLANE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT????
Because most Hi-jackings result in demands being made in exchange for hostages lives. I doubt it ever crossed the minds of the people on board the plane that they were about to plow into a sky scraper.
Back on topic

1. We simply will never know how many people were murdered on the planes before they flew into the buildings.

2. The fourth plane where people did fight back everyone died in the ensuing crash.

3. Because for all Phillip Macs "your basic instincts kick in - the urge to live" isnt actually true for everyone. Because a lot of people in fear quite simply do not fight back because of their fear or they freeze.

4. Because as Jordan said above, if they thought it was a hijacking and they would be used as hostages, it probably would not have occurred to them they were going to die until the planes approached the buildings by which time any action would simply have been too late.
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Old 27-06-06, 09:15 AM   #47
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4. Because as Jordan said above, if they thought it was a hijacking and they would be used as hostages, it probably would not have occurred to them they were going to die until the planes approached the buildings by which time any action would simply have been too late.

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They played phone conversations passengers had with their families on american TV.
All of them stating "We are going to die"
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Old 27-06-06, 09:20 AM   #48
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4. Because as Jordan said above, if they thought it was a hijacking and they would be used as hostages, it probably would not have occurred to them they were going to die until the planes approached the buildings by which time any action would simply have been too late.

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They played phone conversations passengers had with their families on american TV.
All of them stating "We are going to die"
On which plane?
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Old 27-06-06, 09:23 AM   #49
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if i were on a plane which was hijacked my thoughts would be i was going to die. regardless of the reason for the hijack
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Old 27-06-06, 09:33 AM   #50
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if i were on a plane which was hijacked my thoughts would be i was going to die. regardless of the reason for the hijack
Yeah I'm sure that would be true for most people. But I think in the back of most peoples minds they'd be hoping to be released, and that would stop them from doing anything that might jepordise that i.e. taking on the hijackers.
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