?? scottoiler ??

Originally Posted by mattSV

.... and then deposits the content of the reservoir on your block paved driveway - well, that is what Rictus's did to my drive anyway

this is worrying... I don't want to drip oil everywhere and all over my drive!

[northwind]

Rictus's one is about 150,000 miles old I think? You always get a wee bit of a drip, as it's a light lube, but one the engine cuts they should stop flowing.

[Viney]

Dont listen to the horror stories. Scottoil have sold thousands of these things ffs, so they cant be that bad. They are fairly easy to fit, easy enough for a numpty. Look on the site and they will show you fitting instructions etc. The trick to scottoilers is gettings the flow right. I run mine on 2 during the warmer months, and 4 in the winter. I got 25k out of my last chain, and i do a lot of town work. Mine doesnt dump oil all over the place, and wont if set properly.

Dont go spending loads of money on a touring kit, as the normal Mk7 kit has enough oil for about 1000+ mile.

As said, just remember to top it up every now and again.

[mattSV]

Originally Posted by Viney

Dont listen to the horror stories. Scottoil have sold thousands of these things ffs, so they cant be that bad. They are fairly easy to fit, easy enough for a numpty. Look on the site and they will show you fitting instructions etc. The trick to scottoilers is gettings the flow right. I run mine on 2 during the warmer months, and 4 in the winter. I got 25k out of my last chain, and i do a lot of town work. Mine doesnt dump oil all over the place, and wont if set properly.

Dont go spending loads of money on a touring kit, as the normal Mk7 kit has enough oil for about 1000+ mile.

As said, just remember to top it up every now and again.

I may have exaggerated a little bit - there was a small patch of oil about 3" by 3" on the drive

If you can't be @rsed with regularly lubing your chain then they are a great bit of kit, and the expense of buying one is offset by the longer chain/sprocket life. THe only problems I have ever heard with them is initially getting the flow rate set correctly, and the odd feeder tube going awol.

[cortinaman]

Originally Posted by medwaysv

Dont do what i did and by the motorax electronic chain loober (about 20 notes cheaper than the scott oiler)..very hard to fill and prime and very messy
altho someone else might come along soon and disagree with me :P

That would be me :P

I've had a Motrax unit running for about 5000 km now and I'm totally happy with it so far.

Yes, it can be a bit fiddly to top up if you're using thick oil. I'm thinking of getting the electronic adjuster and switch to some light weight oil, should make it easy enought to squirt it down the filler tube.

Also there is no level indicator as the bottle isn't see through. However, I've found it's jsut a matter of filling it at an interval. Currently I'm topping up every fourth tank of petrol or so (or roughly every 1000 km) from a small bottle of oil with a nozzle which I keep under the pillion seat. Jugding by the amount of oil I'm filling every time I could go A LOT further between every top up.

Priming was no problem at all, I did it before installing. I just gave it a squirt of oil, I used a thin oil to speed up the process. Then I hooked it up to a battery to open the solenoid (a 9V battery from a smoke alarm will do fine) and left it with the feeder tupe hanging down into a container to collect the oil and left it to itself for an hour or so (if my memory serves me right).

The feeder delivers the oil on the chain, not on the sprocket. I think this works better as the oil will be evenly distributed on both sides of the chain. I've kept an eye on this and it seems to work perfectly, the chain gets lubed well on both sides.

Anyway, I think all the different systems more or less does the same. They all have their little differences and it's a matter of personal taste which one to get. I picked the Motrax unit because it's electric, personally I didn't like the idea of hacking into the vacuum tubes.


regards
Frode

Had a scottoiler fitted from day one more or less and have no complaint's about it at all.

Have done almost 9k on my current chain and it's still looking in very good shape. Admitedly most of those miles were done abroard during touring holidays but even still.

Have no problems with leaks, my drive is clean as a whistle. Current setting is 1 too!

It's a hassle free way of routine chain lubing but as said, you need to check your chain for wear on a regular basis too!

Scottoilers are great. Easy enough to fit (do it yourself- my garage did a shoddy job which I repaired. It failed again so I re-did it from scratch and 10K+ miles later it's still fine) and if you do it right, it's easy to fill up.

Don't buy the touring scottoiler, it will (and by this, I mean "after a certain number of miles will", not "may possibly, in isolated cases") knacker your mudguard. Get the standard one and accept you have to top it up more often, or, if you're lazy (like me) get a lube tube (not a loobman) and install the thing cable tied to your subframe under the pillion seat.

If you do any significant amount of miles, it soon pays for itself in terms of chains and sprockets lasting longer, let alone all the hassle it saves cleaning/lubing the chain.

[rictus01]

Originally Posted by mattSV

.... and then deposits the content of the reservoir on your block paved driveway -

well, that is what Rictus's did to my drive anyway

suppose I'd better add my 2p worth ?

Yes mine was leaking on the day, but it was set a little high and I forgot to turn it down, plus the fact I run mine on used engine oil which is a little thinner (I did apology’s ).

My current Scottoiler is on it's fifth bike and apart from a bit of new tubing cost me £40, it must have covered at least half a million miles so far, the avarage chain life is somewhere between 40-48,000 miles (best 54,074) which is at least two sets of Chain & sprockets for free, do the maths you save about £100 a time (C&S), The time getting them changed, plus chain lube & the bother of applying it, all for 3 minutes each week filling the res (that's about a thousand miles or so).

Buy Hey some people like to spend valueable riding time playing with their bike instead.

Cheers Mark.

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by Baph

Stories of getting air into the fuel injection system of my brand new K6 scared me slightly.

Someone's been telling you 'stories', it's a vacuum connection - like parts of your bike already wear. There's no 'fiddling' with the FI to be done to fit one.

On the subject of Loobmans, they work just fine and do exactly the same as a Scotty, in the same way, (Scotty's oil delivery is by gravity too), the only difference is that Scottoilers are automatic, and are turned on and off with the engine, all the intake vaccum does is open a valve, this is where the Loobman falls down - stop riding before the oil you've squeezed out has gone through the system and there's no way to stop it going onto the floor/nice block paving/etc etc. This only time happens with a Scotty if the owner sets it wrong.

Originally Posted by mattSV

I may have exaggerated a little bit - there was a small patch of oil about 3" by 3" on the drive

If you can't be @rsed with regularly lubing your chain then they are a great bit of kit, and the expense of buying one is offset by the longer chain/sprocket life. THe only problems I have ever heard with them is initially getting the flow rate set correctly, and the odd feeder tube going awol.

I also have a scott oiler fitted. My bike was also parked on your drive (lucky you ) and I think you'll find there was not a drop of oil where my bike was parked.