Engine braking

yeah i always use engine braking and balance my brakes for a good slow down passenger sometimes look at you funny for doing this.

[CSpronken]

How do you guys handle hard braking before a corner, when re-engaging the clutch after down changing might be to much for the rear wheel?

Originally Posted by CSpronken

How do you guys handle hard braking before a corner, when re-engaging the clutch after down changing might be to much for the rear wheel?

Before re-engaging the clutch, "blip" the throttle to help the engine speed match the rear wheel speed it might take a while to get it right at first, but give it some practice!

Matt

What Matt said

EDIT: That Matt, not this Matt. Well, this Matt too, but I'm just copying what that Matt said. Make sense? Good

Its only a problem at low revvs, and yes it makes the bike a bit more tricky to use at low speed and RPM than an IL4 or a Parallel twin

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

What Matt said

EDIT: That Matt, not this Matt. Well, this Matt too, but I'm just copying what that Matt said. Make sense? Good

The same Matt would like to add the idea of feathering the clutch, allthough I suspect to both Matt's this may be a theory neither have tried, unless the other Matt is very clever. This Matt is not clever with the clutch, but is gentle.

Matt

[CSpronken]

Originally Posted by alpinestarhero

Before re-engaging the clutch, "blip" the throttle to help the engine speed match the rear wheel speed it might take a while to get it right at first, but give it some practice!

Yes, that's what I normally do as well, but it's kinda hard to do with your hand when breaking heavily (practise perhaps?). I mean normally I would break earlier and do the "blib" after just before the corner, but I mean if you're really moving fast on a circuit for instance, do you just subtly re-engage the clutch mid corner?

[fizzwheel]

You can brake really hard and blip, its just practice, you should aim to get into the gear you want and at the speed you want, before you enter the corner, then hold a constant throttle to the apex and then drive the bike out of the corner on the throttle.

Going into a corner with the throttle shut or the clutch in, or clutch engaged mid corner is not IMHO what you want to be doing.

A small whiff of throttle will help to keep the bike balanced, opening or shutting the throttle mid corner, or pulling in the clutch is going to make the bike pitch around on its suspension which means that instead of absorbing the bumps on the road whilst corning the suspension has to also cope with weight transfer from front to rear which unsettles the bike which mean you'll mess your line up through the corner possibly running to wide etc etc.

[CSpronken]

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

You can brake really hard and blip, its just practice, you should aim to get into the gear you want and at the speed you want, before you enter the corner, then hold a constant throttle to the apex and then drive the bike out of the corner on the throttle.

Going into a corner with the throttle shut or the clutch in, or clutch engaged mid corner is not IMHO what you want to be doing.

A small whiff of throttle will help to keep the bike balanced, opening or shutting the throttle mid corner, or pulling in the clutch is going to make the bike pitch around on its suspension which means that instead of absorbing the bumps on the road whilst corning the suspension has to also cope with weight transfer from front to rear which unsettles the bike which mean you'll mess your line up through the corner possibly running to wide etc etc.

Thanks, I'll see if I can get my right hand to brake and blib.