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Old 15-11-07, 05:24 PM   #21
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letting children believe they have some kind of mental handicap.
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Old 15-11-07, 05:44 PM   #22
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Mini Matt----I dont agree with that at all.
We tend to kowtow to "experts" medical or otherwise far too much IMO,such that we denigrate our own experience and opinions.Medicine is remarkably political,and follows fashions just like any other social science.I would be very suspicious of any condition that showed such a huge rise in numbers over such a short timescale,and I include depression in that.Im not saying these conditions dont exist,but that large numbers of diagnoses are factors of fashion rather than fact.
As another example,look at the now disgraced medical experts in recent child abuse/murder cases that resulted in miscarriages of justice.Kowtowing to "experts" caused that.
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Old 15-11-07, 06:21 PM   #23
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Mini Matt----I dont agree with that at all.
We tend to kowtow to "experts" medical or otherwise far too much IMO,such that we denigrate our own experience and opinions.Medicine is remarkably political,and follows fashions just like any other social science.I would be very suspicious of any condition that showed such a huge rise in numbers over such a short timescale,and I include depression in that.Im not saying these conditions dont exist,but that large numbers of diagnoses are factors of fashion rather than fact.
As another example,look at the now disgraced medical experts in recent child abuse/murder cases that resulted in miscarriages of justice.Kowtowing to "experts" caused that.
agreed ADHT as has been said in this thread its almost as its fasionable to have it,

I do think people nowadays are too easily led on so called conditions.

people nowadays don't seem to want take responsability for things or face up to the truth about themselves or others so look for convinient conditions to put themselves into, just like ADHT. Its eaiser to say my little johnny has it than admit he is a littlle sit and i cant/wont disapline him
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Old 15-11-07, 06:24 PM   #24
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Uh oh, I actually agree with neio

Think I need to go lie down.
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Old 15-11-07, 06:38 PM   #25
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ADHD - Awful Delinquent Horrid Diaper-wearer

Seriously though, it does exist and always has, I have personal experience, in a previous relationship was was a step parent to an ADHD child.

However why should ADHD suddenly have become so pandemic? Yep, 'cos its the name given to kids with naughty parents! Then 'cos the doctor says they've got ADHD thats the excuse not to manage them at all and just let them be naughty and get bad school results.

There's certainly nothing wrong with most of these kids, just the way they are managed. Even with the naughtiest toddler, change the carer and you'll change the kid. Thats why the supernanny programs have been so sucessful.

ADHD is exactly what it says on the tin, attention deficit hyperactivity - kids with an exceptional and unusually short attention span that are always jam packed full of beans!

Thats absolutely no excuse however for the kid being naughty or thick IMO. ADHD kids need shedloads of attention, stimulation and a switch of focus every 10-15 minutes. ADHD kids can be very intelligent, well behaved little angels if the parent can put the time and effort in. In fact an ADHD kid thrives on learning, if you teach three different subjects in a half hour session, with their levels of energy they really pay attention and absorb stuff so long as you can pick up when thier attention starts to dwindle and change the activity quick.

Our biggest problem with him was his behaviour in school, because the school system just isn't geared up to cope with a kid that demands that level of attention. You can't just decide your going to stop teaching maths half way though a lesson 'cos one kid out of thirty gets bored and starts being naughty. I would support any parent who wants to remove thier ADHD child from the school system and tutor at home.

A stranger need never realise that that charming well behaved wee kid has ADHD if the parents are managing it properly.

But as already said, most modern ADHD kids, don't have it!

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Uh oh, I actually agree with neio

Think I need to go lie down.
LOL, you feeling better yet??
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Old 15-11-07, 06:45 PM   #27
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Well I have worked with kids in the US that have had ADHD, some were on drugs other weren't......I don't know much it really some of the kids there we meant to have were handful to teach and look after, but some people may just be like that though? I also think their home life should be looked at, some of these kids were from a messed up family life.

I sometimes find hard to concerate, though I am also dyslexic, wheter that has a part to play in it who knows. But I do find when I really work at something I'm exhaused afterwards, like now shattered after being out on the bike for a few hours but I expect thats the same for anyone right?
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Old 15-11-07, 06:52 PM   #28
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But I do find when I really work at something I'm exhaused afterwards, like now shattered after being out on the bike for a few hours but I expect thats the same for anyone right?
yeah i get like that on long drives and rides etc. I also am the sort of person who get bored easily as well, quick i need a label for my condition, now which one??
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Old 15-11-07, 06:55 PM   #29
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yeah i get like that on long drives and rides etc. I also am the sort of person who get bored easily as well, quick i need a label for my condition, now which one??

Hmmm.................no stamina and easily bored...............you're a Teenager
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Old 15-11-07, 06:56 PM   #30
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yeah i get like that on long drives and rides etc. I also am the sort of person who get bored easily as well, quick i need a label for my condition, now which one??
Haha no label buddy, said before I'm normal its just the rest of the world that is crazy....looked at being normal....no thanks
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