Racist slurs

Originally Posted by RingDing

Whoa there! Try a polite PM to him before launching a full blown assault.

I really don't think any offence was intended and it has sparked a generally well conducted debate. That can only be a good thing when it comes to this sort of topic. Don't let's make it personal and put people on the defensive/offensive.

IMO, of course!

<ducks for cover>

i think your posting name is very offensive to the asian community.

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by RingDing

Whoa there! Try a polite PM to him before launching a full blown assault.

I really don't think any offence was intended and it has sparked a generally well conducted debate. That can only be a good thing when it comes to this sort of topic. Don't let's make it personal and put people on the defensive/offensive.

IMO, of course!

<ducks for cover>

Dude, please read back to my first post on page 1, i aksed himpolitely if i was misreading his comments. I'm not having a personal attack at anyone but simply saying it as i see it.

if someone asked me outright on the forum to clarify something and i had nothing to hide i'd gladly clarify it.

And if i start a debate its something i want to be involved in, again the originator has not been involved in this debate expect to say some nonsense abour giving up wives for lent or something equally pointless.

if you start a debate i'd image you intend to be involved in it. Seems more to me that he decided to start a snowball rolling down a hill and sit back and laugh at where it goes.
Pointless button pushing looking for a raise from someone and if it was a new membe of this site they'd be getting called a troll in no time and mods would be deciding to ban their account.
As it is this is from a long standing member so the benefit of the doubt is given.

however this thread is turning more and more pointless dont you agree?
hence ive asked for it to be locked.

[Biker Biggles]

I think the giving up wives for Hannukah clarifies it.Its a joke,in idle banter where it belongs.Jokes dont become funnier for being "explained".Live with it as its clearly not an assault on anyone,but if you dont get it move on,nothing to see here.

Originally Posted by Spiderman

but as a white person who has probably never encountered racism yoursefl FS or if you have in very small doeses you CANT understand the feeling of being abused in this way.
I'm not having a go mate just saying it as it is. Ive never had a period so can only sympathise to a degree with girls on that front. See what i mean?

I have been assaulted in broad daylight. Like most people who are a victim of... well anything, it made me feel depressive and inward looking and I felt like what had happened to me was a great injustice. It made me very angry, much like you felt when you were a victim I'm sure.

The roundabout point I'm trying to make is that abuse of any kind is unpleasant. You might have a label for the abuse you suffered, but I don't think in the end that makes any difference.

Originally Posted by Fizzy Fish

Now despite being subject to some very OTT PC-ness on a regular basis, I do think that there is merit in a lot of it.

I think most people realise that race has nothing to do with anything other than the colour of your skin. It seems to me (and it's really just my gut feeling I'm going on here) that racism isn't really an issue for most people anymore, save the politicians who keep making a big deal about it. Quite frankly, the government constantly patronising minorities leads me to think that politicians are the biggest racists out there.

Originally Posted by Ollie_07

The race card is soooooooooo overused, and the people that use it should really get over it.

what he said.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

It seems to me (and it's really just my gut feeling I'm going on here) that racism isn't really an issue for most people anymore, save the politicians who keep making a big deal about it. Quite frankly, the government constantly patronising minorities leads me to think that politicians are the biggest racists out there.

As someone who has done a lot of research amongst people from all sorts of race groups (and also on topics such as gender, sexuality, age and faith) I can that this certainly isn't what I'm hearing - it's without a doubt a very live issue.

Also, worth noting that few people intend to be racist and offend someone else, but a huge amount of stuff is said that unintentionally puts the same kind of message across. Hence the fact that there's a perception that it isn't actually that common an occurance.

I think a big part of the problem in society is that this sort of topic isn't then being dealt with very well - a lack of common sense and/or acknowledgement of the White/British/Christian (or other) perspective leads to OTT PC-ness. This gets people's backs up and is damaging the very valid reasons people were trying to be PC in the first place.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

I think the giving up wives for Hannukah clarifies it.Its a joke,in idle banter where it belongs.Jokes dont become funnier for being "explained".Live with it as its clearly not an assault on anyone,but if you dont get it move on,nothing to see here.

As mentioned I work in an environment where it's very PC, and if i made a joke about my Welsh colleagues I would be open to a disciplinary. Extreme maybe, but I think there's something in the idea of not saying stuff to avoid setting up a culture where it's considered OK to hold those attitudes.

[Biker Biggles]

I doubt if I could work in that kind of environment.Yes we all have to mind our ps and qs and think about what we say but the kind of overbearing management you describe would drive me mad.I know its become like this for legal reasons,but its also given management unheard of power over their employees,which they seem to relish.I find it all very Orwellian and being old enough to remember the bad old days when there was freedom of speech I know what I prefere.And its not the shutdown compliant society we have today.

[timwilky]

+1 BB.

The Nazis, Stalin etc. were everything we abhor. They too told their people what and how to think. Yet in modern Britain there appears to be an element of government (National, local, quangos, etc.) who think that they must impose their political thinking on others.

Yay to the people that are using this thread to have a healthy reasoned, intellectual debate. In my view, the more people have the courage to discuss and think about these things, the more enlighened they become.

Boo to those who've just used it to air some rather ignorant - and, frankly, somewhat offensive - opinions.