Racist slurs

Originally Posted by Pedrosa

I do not see colour,I see a fellow human being.

And me!!!

ha ha.
Pretty funny emmm comebacks I suppose.
Maybe I am absolutist.
I absolutely dont like weak minded racist people.

Good call.


I still think its very simple.
Every person has a name.
You can address people by this name, or in a large number of other ways.

However, within this large set of other ways, you have to use some intelligence (bear with me), and you should to try not to be excessively obnoxious.

If you do not understand or know where that line is, and that line definitely exists, well... basically I suppose unfortunately you start to fall into the definition of a sociopath.


Is that simple enough?
You treat people in a civilised, neutral or non obnoxious slightly considerate fashion and feel embarrassed about social errors you have made, or... you don't care.

And if you dont care, if you fundamentally cannot view the world through another person's eyes, you might have a problem.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by northwind

That's obvious nonsense though... I'm having trouble even explaining why, because it's so fundamental. Abuse is what it is, if you say something with the intent of causing harm then whether it hits the mark or not, it's still abuse. It's like saying something wasn't dangerous driving because the other guy got out of the way.

"With the intent of causing harm" being the important bit.

Picture this, at the bar, Ians round, someone says "get your wallet unchained, it's your round."

That's an obviously stereotypical racial slur, Ian being of Jewish descent, why's this so fundamentally wrong?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

"With the intent of causing harm" being the important bit.

Picture this, at the bar, Ians round, someone says "get your wallet unchained, it's your round."

That's an obviously stereotypical racial slur, Ian being of Jewish descent, why's this so fundamentally wrong?

??
Chris man... are you taking the p!ss here? How is that is obviously a racial slur?

Get your wallet unchained you stingey kike is a stereotypical racial slur.

Get your wallet unchained, it's your round means... exactly what it says on the tin.

[yorkie_chris]

Ok I make the point badly...
But I stand by the point, if you say something without intent to cause harm, then where's the problem? If there is one, then it's certainly not your's to complain about.

The way I've come to see this, is if you need to resort to race to offend somebody then you must be a little dense, think of something else... And what one person may see as racism is someone else's banter, but if it's not aimed at them then it's nowt to do with them.

Originally Posted by northwind

So that cricketer actually was a monkey?

The word might have been 'mangey' apparently, Hindi for bed. Singh was suggesting that Symonds might enjoy going to bed with his own mother (in a very non U rated way). Definitely not cricket but not racist either.

Symonds has since been reported as saying he doesn't mind racist insults as long as they're from friends, so pick the bones out of that!

[Viney]

Ok, i only read the 1st page of this, but this was discussed on The Wright Show. On thie phone in, it seemed that a majority of the black callers, wouldnt have taken the term 'Monkey' as a racial slur, yet the white callers did. Go figure?

Things can be said in so many ways, and 99% of this time its how these things are interpreted in life by that person at that time. Lifes to short to worry about who said what and whats meant by it.

Originally Posted by Viney

Ok, i only read the 1st page of this, but this was discussed on The Wright Show. On thie phone in, it seemed that a majority of the black callers, wouldnt have taken the term 'Monkey' as a racial slur, yet the white callers did. Go figure?

Things can be said in so many ways, and 99% of this time its how these things are interpreted in life by that person at that time. Lifes to short to worry about who said what and whats meant by it.

Reminds me of the time a mate went to a fancy press party as the character Papa Lazarou from The League of Gentlemen. For those who are unfamiliar with the character, he is a 'black minstral' circus ring master that is very sinister, part of this sinister quality comes from the feeling that the black minstrals were 'a bit wrong'. If anything, the character pokes fun at how backwards and out of date racism is. It certainly doesn't condone it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/cont...05_400x267.jpg

A black girl at the party thought it was great fancy dress costume and recognised that it was mocking racists. In spite of her vocalising these feelings, her (white) friend flew off the handle, to the point that she felt she was justified in physically assaulting my friend and screaming at him. No doubt she went home with a clear conscience, believeing herself to be "fighting the good fight" and having "stuck one to the racists" rather than realising that she is a thoroughly unpleasent (and none too bright) young woman.

Originally Posted by Viney

Ok, i only read the 1st page of this, but this was discussed on The Wright Show.

i was at a wedding with matthew wright last year.

true story.

ps when i say "with", i mean he was at the same wedding i was.

true story.

and there were no monkeys there, nor were there any invited.

is it george best?

Oh how the launcher of this thread must be sitting back and holding his tum as he chuckles away at the responses and how so many have got on a mission here.

If you only knew who and what was behind it!