I am hurt and disappointed.

Originally Posted by Ed

Wasn't there so have no idea what this is all about.



No it won't. I'm organising one for later in the summer, details to be posted in due course

oh can i come please mister??

So...

Bad vibes in response to bad vibes. Great solution.

Rather than a helpful "Oh, No Mel, it wasn't actually like that at all... There's been some misunderstanding!" it's a crack of the whip and a rapping of the knuckles to make her feel worse?

I dunno how many times I'm going to have to spout the word 'diplomacy' in my lifetime...

Right, my two pence worth.

I declined to be TEC because I thought Mels pace would be very slow. That is her decision and I'll fight for the right for her to join in on rideouts. However her riding does leave room for concern. It's not that's she is slow but that at times she is slow and dangerous. Several people have taken the time to chat to her and try and get them to follow their lines. Not because they are riding gods but to try and instill some confidence in the lass. I was hoping that with new tyres and lowered suspension she might have been a smidgen quicker or at least more confident, but she doesn't seem to improve at all.

I wish she would consider taking IAM or Rospa training.

Also I wish some of those who expressed different opinions on NW3 had been honest on this thread.

Those who have ridden with me will know that I like to go fastish, but that has never stopped me from encouraging new or inexperienced riders along on any ride that I have organised, including 125 riders.

It is a shame if peeps reading this thread are put off from joining future rideouts as the experience gained and fun derived can be immense.

Not commenting on what Mel has said, due to the fact my thoughts are not worth jack, however I will say.... met you twice Mel, liked you twice, oh and I still have your clutch lever

Not read any of the responses, I am not 100% sure what was said or by whom on/at/after the rideout. But the answer to me is clear Mel - don't go on rideouts with A-holes

If you fancy a group ride, best if you select say 2 other like minded folk that are just happy to have a no pressure bimble and a quiet natter at rest points.

Personally I have no intention of going on a .org rideout (or any other rideout). Not only am I miserable get hated by everyone , but I have no interest in it really, I can't see what it is supposed to achieve, if I wanted to go for a ride I could do that myself, if I wanted to be social then I can't really do that riding a bike. If I wanted to meat other riders/bikers, I'd go to a bike meet!!

Its safe to say that anyone grumbling about your pace probably has a small weener or if it was girls, a fat @ss!!

HTH

Originally Posted by petevtwin650

Several people have taken the time to chat to her and try and get them to follow their lines. Not because they are riding gods but to try and instill some confidence in the lass. I was hoping that with new tyres and lowered suspension she might have been a smidgen quicker or at least more confident, but she doesn't seem to improve at all.

I wish she would consider taking IAM or Rospa training.

Also I wish some of those who expressed different opinions on NW3 had been honest on this thread.

very well put Pete - I was TEC for most of Saturday and I share the same views as you do and I have tried to communicate those to Mel twice - once during the Hardy Bikers rideout and during NW3

during the NW3 weekend and especially while I was TEC on Saturday Mel had at least 2 very close calls!!

On an uphill turn and while Neio was marking the junction she went to it to slow and almost lost her balance and just managed to hold the bike without falling onto Neio's brand new zx636!!! Then on a downhill turn she went in with almost no speed and momentum which again caused her to lose balance and almost fall over.

I feel that her initial post is unwarranted. If information reached her in one way or another then she should have communicated with those inidividuals.

I have been on 2 rideouts and on both I received feedback from other riders. I've been riding for 12+ years and I will still listen with wide open ears to what other people have to say about my riding.

Sorry Mel but both times that I tried to speak to you about your riding I don't feel like you listened. I am not a riding god either but some things are pretty basic in order to survive on the road!

Originally Posted by 600+

Sorry Mel but both times that I tried to speak to you about your riding I don't feel like you listened. !

Did she ask for your opinion???

If someone came up to me an commented on my riding (without me asking for their opinion) it'd get my back straight up too, I certainly wouldn't listen!!

I assume Mel was there to meet people and have a nice rideout, not to be met with critique over her already nervous riding. Its gonna be a bit like having a spot on the end of your nose and everyone saying 'Look at that big spot on your nose' (even worse if it is by people you don't know closely). You just don't want to hear it!!

Originally Posted by Blue_SV650S

Did she ask for your opinion???

If someone came up to me an commented on my riding (without me asking for their opinion) it'd get my back straight up too, I certainly wouldn't listen!!

I assume Mel was there to meet people and have a nice rideout, not to be met with critique over her already nervous riding. Its gonna be a bit like having a spot on the end of your nose and everyone saying ?Look at that big spot on your nose?. You just don?t want to hear it!!

actually Blue mate she did say that she was uncomfortable with the way she was riding and she would like to improve

nobody is met with critique in any rideout that i've been to! So chill with all the wise guy ideas as I'm starting to get really F'd off with this thread and the amount of people that have an opinion while they were not there to see and experience the situations first hand!

Originally Posted by 600+

actually Blue mate she did say that she was uncomfortable with the way she was riding and she would like to improve

nobody is met with critique in any rideout that i've been to! So chill with all the wise guy ideas as I'm starting to get really F'd off with this thread and the amount of people that have an opinion while they were not there to see and experience the situations first hand!

So are you saying I should keep my opinions on other peoples business to myself ... that is a little ironic don't you think?!!?

And this is an open forum after all

Oh and clearly there was critique on the rideout, or was it just slagging off behind her back!?!? Coz that is ok innit!

I understand how these things (which you say have been said) could be hurtful, but to my mind rather than post publically, I would confront the people that you've been told said these things. In the end it's the only way you'd get to the bottom of this.