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Old 15-07-08, 03:38 PM   #11
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Filtering is a high risk manover as such you would be lucky for it go 100% in your favour however he did admit which is good.

Did you take any pictures at the scence?

Do you have any indpedant witness?

The above well, help I may look into a bit more however you will have to wait as I'm far too tried after work.
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Old 15-07-08, 03:41 PM   #12
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he admited fault, and apolosigesed (although he may denie this) he seemed like an honsest guy,
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Old 15-07-08, 03:42 PM   #13
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If the traffic was stationary or going at a speed <10mph (iirc) you are allowed to cross solid lined to overtake. If he has admitted liability I'd just ask him to settle without going to insurers. If you may remember, exactly the same thing happend to me last year though mine was in a no u-turn signposted area and snapped a gear lever.
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Old 15-07-08, 03:44 PM   #14
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he admited fault, and apolosigesed (although he may denie this) he seemed like an honsest guy,


what happens now, as last time i had to take the bike for an estimate (20 miles away) which is a pain,

i think the forks may have taken a knock? i was only 3 miles from home, so did not notice anything, but was only doing 20-30mph
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Old 15-07-08, 03:45 PM   #15
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I think you are fine even on solids. Its something like you can overtake if the traffic is moving at less than 10mph.

That relates to slow moving vehicles such as bicycles, tractors etc, not a stationary queue. You can still filter though as long as you don't cross the line.

However, Hovis said SINGLE line, not solid so I'm guessing it was broken. In which case it's perfectly ok and the fault lies with the driver who hasn't checked that it's safe to carry out the manoeuvre.

Good luck sorting it out Hovis.
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Old 15-07-08, 03:46 PM   #16
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Filtering is a high risk manover as such you would be lucky for it go 100% in your favour however he did admit which is good.

Did you take any pictures at the scence?

Do you have any indpedant witness?

The above well, help I may look into a bit more however you will have to wait as I'm far too tried after work.
It shows mate
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Old 15-07-08, 03:58 PM   #17
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If the traffic was stationary or going at a speed <10mph (iirc) you are allowed to cross solid lined to overtake. If he has admitted liability I'd just ask him to settle without going to insurers. If you may remember, exactly the same thing happend to me last year though mine was in a no u-turn signposted area and snapped a gear lever.

I disagree. I dont think this is right at all...... here's why:

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Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid. This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary, provided the road is clear, to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10 mph (16 km/h) or less.

So, I read this as 2 mini-rules:

1) No crossing a solid line unless you are passing a stationary (i.e NOT MOVING AT ALL) vehicle. Even if its doing 3 mph you can't filter past it on the opposite side of the road if theres a solid line on your side. Expect prosecution.

2) No crossing a solid line unless you are overtaking a cycle, horse or maintenance vehicle IF THAT VEHICLE OR HORSE IS DOING <10mph. So you can't overtake a horse thats doing 30, say, even if you can smell its bum.

I know this has been done to death multiple times over the years but to me the rules are clear.

a) you can cross the white line by all means if its safe AND the traffic (queue) has STOPPED

b) you can cross the white line to overtake a road sweeper/gritter, horse or cycle thats going <10mph

otherwise stay put.

If you can get past without crossing the line do so, if not, again stay put.

You're not allowed to overtake anything you fancy a go at and cross the white line, even if its safe, it has to be a horse, cyclist, road maintenance vehicle or "stopped".

There. I feel better now.
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Old 15-07-08, 04:01 PM   #18
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Question related to the legality of filtering, apologies if this has been done to death elsewhere but have you seen the number of hits you get back when searching for filtering!?!

Dual carriageway, stationery or very slow moving traffic (around 10-15mph), if I'm filtering in between them, am I technically 'undertaking' the vehicles on my right and therefore passing illegally (or at least not in line with the Highway Code)?

I arrived next to a police car at the lights this morning (on the inside lane) after filtering for about 1/2mile and neither of the occupants appeared happy/impressed to see me sat next to them
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i have just phoned the guy, and hes already conacted his insurers, they have said its his fault, and hes admited it,

hopfuly this will NOT effect my NCB

not sure what to do with the bike, as if i take it for estimate i will be stuck there unless they offer courtasy bike?

this all may sould stupid, but i have not been through this before.
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i have just phoned the guy, and hes already conacted his insurers, they have said its his fault, and hes admited it,

hopfuly this will NOT effect my NCB

not sure what to do with the bike, as if i take it for estimate i will be stuck there unless they offer courtasy bike?

this all may sould stupid, but i have not been through this before.

Have you made an appointment with your GP yet to look at your 'stiff' neck?
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