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Old 06-09-08, 03:17 AM   #31
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According to the law it just needs to be a bike restricted to 33bhp not a bike restricted to 33bhp with a fancy certificate. I'm personally having mine restricted by myself then checked over by a shop and dyno'd, the dyno certificate/report will prove without doubt that the bike is under 33bhp.
I was always under the impression that you needed the certificate to show insurance companies before you could get cover, but after trawling through countless messaga boards, it would appear thats not the case after all and Dave20046 is correct.
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Old 06-09-08, 05:06 PM   #32
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Yes far too much if you have a pointy bike. Pointy's are ridiculously easy to restrict and I've seen the part go for £40 second hand.
Curvys are a different kettle, I'm yet to experience the joys
Errr...sorry if I seem a bit daft, but what's the difference between a curvy and pointy? I'm quite new to all this lol! Is the pointy a fully faired one? Or is there more to it than that? Also, why does pointy/curvy make a difference to how easy it is to restrict? (sorry...woman without much technical knowledge!).

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Old 06-09-08, 05:08 PM   #33
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I'm re-booked! Phoned the riding school this morning and I'm booked in for 125 training on 22nd September then 125 test 23rd September So now I just need to get the bike into the garage for the restriction...although I'll hold off on that a week or so to see about the cheaper parts etc if I can get them somewhere!

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Old 06-09-08, 06:27 PM   #34
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Errr...sorry if I seem a bit daft, but what's the difference between a curvy and pointy? I'm quite new to all this lol! Is the pointy a fully faired one? Or is there more to it than that? Also, why does pointy/curvy make a difference to how easy it is to restrict? (sorry...woman without much technical knowledge!).

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Don't worry I asked the exact same question when I first bought mine. The curvys are the 1999-2002 bikes and the pointys are 2003 onwards. Named after their shape and dynamicness.
If you've got a more modern one I bet someone on here could talk you through fitting it, despite your gender or knowledge.
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Old 06-09-08, 06:50 PM   #35
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Curvy's (99-02) have carbs and need washers installing under the carbs = PITA to fit.
Pointy's (03+) are EFI and have a different 'restricted' ECU = Very easy to fit.

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Old 06-09-08, 06:56 PM   #36
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Thanks for that guys! So...mine is a pointy then! ('53 plate).

All that makes me wonder though...apparently the kits from Suzuki are around £150 and that's where most of the cost comes in, but if the bikes are so different to restrict then do both kits cost the same or could mine in theory turn out to be less?

How does it work buying a 2nd hand restrictor kit as far as the certificate etc goes? (hubby wants me to have the certificate...)

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Old 06-09-08, 08:04 PM   #37
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Thanks for that guys! So...mine is a pointy then! ('53 plate).

All that makes me wonder though...apparently the kits from Suzuki are around £150 and that's where most of the cost comes in, but if the bikes are so different to restrict then do both kits cost the same or could mine in theory turn out to be less?

How does it work buying a 2nd hand restrictor kit as far as the certificate etc goes? (hubby wants me to have the certificate...)

Laura
You don't need a certificate legally (well deffo not a suzuki one) but they can be dubiously purchased on ebay. What I would recommend is buying a kit second hand fitting it under someones instruction on here then going to a garage that does 'dyno testing' they will test the bike and give you a report on the bikes power - proving it's under 33bhp, I gather that is about £40-£45. Or you could pay the £200.
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Old 06-09-08, 08:06 PM   #38
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Like Dave said in a previous post, all the law says is that you have to ride in accordance with your license, i.e nothing over 33bhp. As long as you are doing that then you will be fine. If you get pulled then it is up to the police to prove otherwise, whether you have a certificate or not. As far as insurance goes, if you have a prang then they may require proof, but the dyno report should suffice, if its a serious prang then they will have it assessed independantly whether you have a cert or not.

A certificate or dyno printout only says that a restricter was fitted at that particular moment. It doesnt prove that its still fitted 3 months later.

Maybe the best option would be to seek advise from your insurance company first befor doing anything.

Good luck for your test too.
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Old 07-09-08, 10:10 AM   #39
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Dyno run to check power is usually less than £40... used to get them at jordans in leeds for 20, have now gone up to 30.
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Old 07-09-08, 10:37 AM   #40
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Thanks guys. I really do see the point about the certificate now...doesn't really prove anything in the end! I think I'll give a few insurance companies a call and see what they say. I tried to get some quotes when I first thought about restricting it and they were mostly less than helpful, but that might be because I was a bit vague, not sure. Hubby is with BikeSure and he said that they're really helpful if they call up, so I'll try them and see what they say

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