Karen Matthews is a disgrace

Originally Posted by husky03

As for the white sheet comment-don't see how you bring a group of racial purists into this?

Who's been influenced by the media?-YOU should be ashamed that you think because of my view point on this that i've allowed myself to be influenced by the press-i'm big enough and ugly enough to make my own decisions and view points.

They're both examples of mob mentality, not a difficult connection to make.

If you can't recognise that justice goes far beyond the fraction of cases you actually read about in the media, I don't see how you could claim not to be influenced by it.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

They're both examples of mob mentality, not a difficult connection to make.

If you can't recognise that justice goes far beyond the fraction of cases you actually read about in the media, I don't see how you could claim not to be influenced by it.

Indeed it begs the question are all serious cases given silly punishments or is it just the ones we are told about in the media.

But hpwever due to that being the truth or media hype it has led to a lot of people thinking all they will get is a slap on the wrist for mugging someone or worse. People are not afraid of our justice anymore so are more inclined to commit crime.

Example of our justice system-I along with fellow work chums can spend a great deal of time at court for a vast spectrum of crimes-if the courts are busy(which they normally are) the powers that be decide which crimes get the court time and the ones that don't get binned-where's the deterent in that for the person who carries out the crime?
I see it day in day out -we are to soft.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Holy ****e, no wonder this country is going down the tubes - and it's not because of people like Sharon Mathews.

Many people on here sound like given slightly different circumstances, they would be quite happy roaming the southern states of the USA in white sheets carrying out their ideas of 'justice'.

Allowing yourselves to be influenced by such manipulative media tripe is shocking - you should be ashamed of yourselves.



It is precisely this reason that victims, who understandably lose all sense of perspective once a crime is committed against them, are the least likely people to have any sense of what justice is than anyone else. I'm glad at least Messie can see that.

If you are going to be influenced by manipulative media tripe, would it not help if you actually listened to it before spouting off?

The little girl was called Shannon Matthews and she was held against her will for 24 days by her Stepfathers Uncle. It was Craig Meehan watching Porn who lived with her mother who was called Karen Matthews.

If you want to defend Sharon Matthews then start your own thread.

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Originally Posted by neio79

only if we are all naughty little tinkers

haha, sounds like a well organised and behaved mob there neio. Self regulating and impartial. Doesn't sound like a mob at all.

Hope justice does prevail, whatever the right decision may be. I think it does most of the time otherwise those cases highlighted earlier in this thread would not warrant 'news' if it was the norm. But is going to prison really adequate punishment? I don't agree with torture of death penalties but hard labour might and shaming of criminals may be some sort of deterrent. The again, some people are just evil.

Originally Posted by husky03

where's the deterent in that for the person who carries out the crime?

Prison sentences should be the last thing to be used as deterrents, not the first.

Originally Posted by husky03

I see it day in day out -we are to soft.

She's not even been convicted, let alone sentenced ffs.

Originally Posted by wheelnut

If you are going to be influenced by manipulative media tripe, would it not help if you actually listened to it before spouting off?

The little girl was called Shannon Matthews and she was held against her will for 24 days by her Stepfathers Uncle. It was Craig Meehan watching Porn who lived with her mother who was called Karen Matthews.

If you want to defend Sharon Matthews then start your own thread.

Thinking that I'm defending Sharon Matthews shows how badly you've missed the point.

A few years back the media reported that a shifty foreign bloke wearing a big coat ran into an underground station with police shouting warnings at him, before he was shot. Look how much of that turned out to be true.

Has anyone actually gave a thought to what the little girl was put through , or her feelings? doubt it somehow, I would imagine that with a family history like hers that adoption may be the only safe option open to her, just hope the next family prove to be somewhat less evil.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

A few years back the media reported that a shifty foreign bloke wearing a big coat ran into an underground station with police shouting warnings at him, before he was shot. Look how much of that turned out to be true.

squirrel - that is a whole different thread, which no doubt will have a very similar arguement.

The Police involved were damned if they did and damned if they didn't.

If you are completely innocent you simply don't run!!

The police couldn't take a chance and his reactions made him look more suspicious than he should have been, especially given our poor immigration controls, therefore they had to react.

Turns out they were wrong, but if they had not reacted and he had turned out to be a bomber they would've been wrong too.

Simple answer is if armed police pull you, stop. Therefore it was his fault for not complying with an order. The outcome, however sad, was partly of his doing.

Alright he was running for another reason, but given the hightened status of the country at that time what choice did they have.

We should stop persecuting the officers for this, they are simply trying to protect the rest of us, including the PC whingers, and for what thanks?

Our Police and Armed Services always get a hard time and must get really p1ssed off listening to stuff like this on a daily basis.

Originally Posted by krhall

If you are completely innocent you simply don't run!!

this is the wrong thread for this again - BUT AGAIN you've made *another* assumption.

If there's one pulling into the station, I ALWAYS run for the tube, I never stand on the escalator I always walk down it.


& wasn't he sitting down, not running when he got shot?

Originally Posted by Kinvig

this is the wrong thread for this again - BUT AGAIN you've made *another* assumption.

If there's one pulling into the station, I ALWAYS run for the tube, I never stand on the escalator I always walk down it.


& wasn't he sitting down, not running when he got shot?

True but i am sure you would stop if you had a few MP5's pointed in your direction and the police wer eshouting at you, even if you did not understand their language.