New fork internals on the market

traxxion has full cartridge(AK20)that is adjustable for rebound but not compression.
compression is set.
matris is more like race tech emulator.

I fitted my Matris fork internals to my SV650s K4 at the weekend. Fitting was pretty easy once I had my head round how the internals all fit in. I was vastly faster on the second fork than the first, I reckon I could do the job in a third of the time now (and get less covered in rancid old oil). Still, the nature of experience I suppose. I dropped the forks by 1.5mm at the same time. Haven't had a chance to really put them through their paces on a sunny afternoon on an a-road yet, but based on my quick shakedown ride yesterday and 220 mile commute this morning, it performed vastly better than stock*. They seemed overly stiff at first, especially compared to the old internals, but soon bedded in.

No scope for adjustment of compression/rebound unless you want to fiddle with shim stacks, which was beyond my abilites (and the stock settings felt fine to me in any event). Preload adjustment requires a 24mm socket/spanner, but seems much firmer and less likely to vibrate looser the way my stock ones had a habit of doing.

*Which I'd be appalled if they hadn't, given that the stock ones in my forks had seen 44K miles of use already.

Wow, I'm amazed that people are still following this thread. I'm glad you tried them out and reported on your experience mounting them Ceri JC. Please follow up a report after a few more miles experience with the new front internals. Did you also do something to the rear shock or a re you still on your stock setup? This is something which cncerns me. I would like to improve on the stock suspension but wouldn't like to disturb the balance of the bike. Which rear shocks fit the SV and keep the same measurements? Maybe this is a good excuse to the start a new thread or maybe there already is.

Originally Posted by zunkus

Wow, I'm amazed that people are still following this thread. I'm glad you tried them out and reported on your experience mounting them Ceri JC. Please follow up a report after a few more miles experience with the new front internals. Did you also do something to the rear shock or a re you still on your stock setup? This is something which cncerns me. I would like to improve on the stock suspension but wouldn't like to disturb the balance of the bike. Which rear shocks fit the SV and keep the same measurements? Maybe this is a good excuse to the start a new thread or maybe there already is.

I fitted a (new) Nitron rear shock, designed for the SV650s K4 and set up for my weight (16st) around this time last year. It was vastly better, although it did show up the weaknesses in the front. My first impressions are that the rear shock did more to improve the bike than the forks internals have, but then the stock shock was dangerously bad. By 28K miles, it had nearly had me off twice entirely due to the shock underperforming on 'spirited' riding. I reckon it'd be okay for commuting for a few thousand more miles though. Also, the rear shock was about £100 more than I paid for the internals. Even so, if my available budget was more than enough to pay for forks springs and gixxer shock, but less than new Nitron/Ohlins/WP shock and new fork internals, I'd suggest going for a good new rear shock and fork springs. All that assumes either you or your insurer don't fancy the gixxer front end swap of course.

I've put 16K miles on the rear shock, so I'll send it off to Nitron for a service soon. Unlike most aftermarket shocks, servicing is cheap enough to make economical sense; about £90 all in, unless it's really worn out. This was one of the main reasons for me buying it. I kept the old OE shock so will fit that for the couple of weeks whilst the new one is being overhauled if I need to use the bike. I was tempted to do both at once (replacing the serviced shock and fit internals), in order to feel the bike 'transformed'> In the end, however, I decided to postpone the rear shock service till after the fork internals were definately working fine, as I didn't want confusion as to where a problem was, if it turned out that the bike was handling funny

Will post back with opinions once I've had a chance to 'give it some' in half decent conditions.

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

I was tempted to do both at once (replacing the serviced shock and fit internals), in order to feel the bike 'transformed'> In the end, however, I decided to postpone the rear shock service till after the fork internals were definitely working fine, as I didn't want confusion as to where a problem was, if it turned out that the bike was handling funny

I like your logic, it makes good sense. Are you a technical engineer by any chance? This is what one learns to solve technical problems, being analytical and taking it one step at a time. If you're not, I must again applaud your thinking.

Originally Posted by zunkus

I like your logic, it makes good sense. Are you a technical engineer by any chance? This is what one learns to solve technical problems, being analytical and taking it one step at a time. If you're not, I must again applaud your thinking.

Very good deduction there: I was a technical engineer in my last job, albeit a computing one, rather than a mechanical one. I think the thought process is very similar though, I see lots of analogies between working on mechanical machines and computers.

Originally Posted by Ceri JC

Very good deduction there: I was a technical engineer in my last job, albeit a computing one, rather than a mechanical one. I think the thought process is very similar though, I see lots of analogies between working on mechanical machines and computers.

Takes one to know one I guess! Aeronautical Radar technical officer myself.

...also if anyone's still interested in matris I found them cheaper at EUR 168 here...
http://shop.ebay.it/?_from=R40&_trks...=matris+kit+sv

I've also stumbled upon these quality items by Technoflex for the SV...
http://www.technoflex.be/en/products...adproducts.htm


Upgrade Kit for front forks without regulation. Top Quality!!
Available for:
- Honda Hornet 600 (Until 2004) - Honda CBF 600 - Suzuki SV 650 - Suzuki Bandit 600 - Kawasaki Z 750 (until 2005) - Yamaha Fazer 600

These people do some real nice looking rear shocks. Anybody here install any?

[northwind]

21Quest had a Technoflex shock i think, and I think he liked it.

Any idea how much the Technoflex emulators retail at? Still something i would like to try out.