Motrax Chain Riveter

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by squirrel_hunter

Yes. But then you asked that question.

How do I know which type of link pin I have and which tool to use? Secondly recommend me a tool?

Rivet link pins come in two sorts:
1) Plain. The pin is a solid cylinder.
2) Recessed. The end of the pin has a hole in it such that the last 2-3mm of the pin is a hollow cylinder.

Rivet pins with plain ends use a hammered tool such as the Whale type, the business end of of the riveting tool pin has a notch in it which squashes the end of the rivet into a pyramid shape, doing that twice at 90 degrees gives the same type of peened end to the pin as the standard links will have.
Rivet pins with a recessed end use a tool with a tapered or round ended tip which spreads open the hollow end of the pin using a screw thread as a press tool.

Being a screw press type, I suspect the tool you used is of the latter type, and the link is of the former.

ive got the motox one, paid 60quid for it, cut my old chain off wiht a hacksaw cause didnt have a grinder, never fitted a chain befor, only on a pushbike with a splitlink, and i found using this tool pretty easy, worked 1st time, BUT no instructions came with it, and i had to work out what did what, other than that it was fine, and i stil have it in perfect workin order, apart from the tightning bar bent, but thats no big deal

I've used a tool (make unknown at this point, i'll dig it out) to help a mate do a chain on CBR. Accepting that we might have used the wrong type of tool vs chain link, my experiance was:
* We bent the tool too
* Getting enough torque on it to do the business was difficult.

We had 2 pairs of hands and could have used a 3rd. But that said the chain seemed too tight as we struggled to get it to meet to do up, that made the job a lot tougher. We bought the chain from a Honda dealer (and the tool). All in all not an experiance I'm looking forward to repeating. The other chains I've done have all been split link type (on smaller bikes) and they are a doddle.

I used a motrax riveter/deriveter/press to do my chain last week. I worked fine for me by myself. The instructions for using it are thre crappy little pictures on the box, just gotta put in the right adapters and away you go. The chain hasnt come off yet so it cant all be that bad....

[maviczap]

A mate asked if he could borrow a chain rivetting tool from our local bike shop, which unsuprisingly said no. But they told him that they peened the rivets over using a hammer. He used this method and hasn't let him down. He rides a Zx9 an rides like a loon.
He borrowed my chain breaker and ground the head off before using the tool

[_Stretchie_]

Motrax Chain Riveter.. Not worth the butter it's made from. I bought a cast one for about £35, can't remember where from but it was fantastic. (No instructions but that's part of the fun)

[Sid Squid]

Originally Posted by _Stretchie_

Motrax Chain Riveter.. Not worth the butter it's made from.

That's completely unfair, as per my earlier post I think it possible the OP used it on the wrong chain. I've had one for many years and fitted hundreds of chains - it works perfectly.
But if you have solid link chain it's the wrong tool. You'll need one of the 'Whale' type tools, which I use where needed.

I have a similar tool and as Sid said its only designed for recessed pin. You just screw the chain trying to use the riveter else, but then it is never clear in the intructions I was lucky to be show the correct method. Un-recessed pins I favour a ball pin hammer, as long a your slow and careful it does a lovely job. Hammer cost me about 2 quid from a car boot, which is where I get all my best 'older' tools.

[_Stretchie_]

Originally Posted by Sid Squid

That's completely unfair, as per my earlier post I think it possible the OP used it on the wrong chain

Sorry Squidly, To be honest I didn't read the whole thread.. I know, you would have thouhgt I'd learnt by now eh... And anywayI will still blame SquirrelHunter, he bought it. It does make sense as it was a right pain in the R's. I did buy that cheaper one and it worked like a dream.

Originally Posted by Grinch

As long a your slow and careful 'older' tools does a lovely job.

Grinchy baby.. No wonder the ladies love you

; )