Michael Collins the 140mph biker

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by grh1904

Sorry, but I find that comment way out of order. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and some may see the cop as being hypocritical, but to make a childish comment like that in what up to now has been a reasoned, sensible discussion....................................

Ok then he needs subjecting to disciplinary actions for riding like just as much of an rse as the person he was entrapping.

That's more sensible a reply, and any action along those lines would generate from either a complaint from the chap himself or the IPCC.

As this has not been reported on I can only surmise that neither of the above has happened.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by grh1904

That's more sensible a reply, and any action along those lines would generate from either a complaint from the chap himself or the IPCC.

As this has not been reported on I can only surmise that neither of the above has happened.

Could a concerned member of the public make such a comaplaint having viewed the video, which we are assured due to its previous useage as such, to be of presentable in court quality?

Im a little disgusted with some of the "fellow biker" comments in this post. Im saddened by it.

The guys held his hands up the the speeding offence, he knows he done wrong. Those of who have sped do, its our risk, we take it, if we get caught, we don't moan. It doesn't seem to me that this guy is moaning about being caught speeding.

Its the way the entire case has been handled, and the fact he's been treated as scum, meanwhile that little chav who's probably already back out carrying knifes and mugging schoolchildren will get away with 1/4 of the punishment.

Sure a life COULD have been taken in an accident, but it wasn't.

Its already been discussed that the police rider was far more dangerous in his riding towards the public.

It was un-marked. Have ANY of you been chased by an unmarked car/bike? Course not.

Seems theres a lot of "moral highground tap tap tap on the keyboard" people in here, neglecting how they would act in a similar situation. Ignorence is bliss i guess....

Becuase your all goody 2 shoes, you never speed, or ride wrecklessly, or peform a naughty move at some point in your biking lifes.

Hmmmmmmmm....... The guys not innocent, deserved the banning, but the rest, is pure bullsh1t, just like some of the replies im saddened to read in this post.

Originally Posted by Daimo

Im a little disgusted with some of the "fellow biker" comments in this post. Im saddened by it.

The guys held his hands up the the speeding offence, he knows he done wrong. Those of who have sped do, its our risk, we take it, if we get caught, we don't moan. It doesn't seem to me that this guy is moaning about being caught speeding.

Its the way the entire case has been handled, and the fact he's been treated as scum, meanwhile that little chav who's probably already back out carrying knifes and mugging schoolchildren will get away with 1/4 of the punishment.

Sure a life COULD have been taken in an accident, but it wasn't.

Its already been discussed that the police rider was far more dangerous in his riding towards the public.

It was un-marked. Have ANY of you been chased by an unmarked car/bike? Course not.

Seems theres a lot of "moral highground tap tap tap on the keyboard" people in here, neglecting how they would act in a similar situation. Ignorence is bliss i guess....

Becuase your all goody 2 shoes, you never speed, or ride wrecklessly, or peform a naughty move at some point in your biking lifes.

Hmmmmmmmm....... The guys not innocent, deserved the banning, but the rest, is pure bullsh1t, just like some of the replies im saddened to read in this post.

i've read every post on this thread, and havnt read anything like as bad as you're making out...maybe i've misread or taken tone and what was intended a different way to you...

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Daimo

Seems theres a lot of "moral highground tap tap tap on the keyboard" people in here, neglecting how they would act in a similar situation. Ignorence is bliss i guess....

Where?

Im not pointing out individual comments. Im in fear of "upsetting" them, or being banned, or offending someones rights or something.

Some people will see the comments, some won't. Depends what kind of a person you are and how you approach your motorcycles and riding.

Im not going there any more with this post, had my say. Some will agree, some won't.

Originally Posted by neillfergie

its borderline entrapment though cos the cops presence may have spurred him on to ride faster as you do if there are other bikes around you.

That is not entrapment.

Originally Posted by Daimo

Have ANY of you been chased by an unmarked car/bike?

Yes actually, why?

Daimo we may be "fellow bikers" but that doesn`t mean we have to agree with or approve of dangerous riding.....


Daily 140mph on A21 biker caught by police

A MOTORCYCLIST was filmed by police driving at breakneck speeds of over 140mph as he raced from Hastings to London on the A21.
Police were alerted to the man's dangerous driving following numerous complaints from Hastings residents and drivers on the A21 road - often referred to as the snail trail!

They reported a motorcyclist riding dangerously and at excessive speed on a daily basis.

Police carried out intelligence work with regard to the biker who appeared to be starting his journey in the London Road area of St Leonards.

The method of riding was considered so extreme by investigating officers from the Sussex Road Policing Unit that normal stopping procedures were not considered appropriate.

Instead, the rider was safely tracked using unmarked cars and an unmarked motorcycle in order to gather evidence to support a prosecution.

In astonishing police footage he is seen speeding at over 100mph as he approaches Robertsbridge.

As he enters Hurst Green he is again filmed doing 100mph - in a 30mph area.

The damning evidence goes on to show him overtaking on solid white lines, driving on the wrong side of the road, doing wheelies, driving one-handed, zipping between lanes on the Lamberhurst bypass and hitting the horrifying 140mph on that stretch.

But it was the end of the road for Michael James Collins, 22, when he was arrested at the motorcycle dealership in South London where he works on Wednesday last week.

Collins, who gave an address in Beckenham, Kent, appeared at Crawley Magistrates Court the following day where he pleaded guilty to a charge of dangerous driving.

He was sentenced to a two year suspended prison sentence, disqualified from driving for two years (with the requirement to take an extended test), given 240 hours unpaid work and ordered to pay costs.

Speaking after the case, Inspector Marc Clothier said: "This type of riding is wholly unacceptable and poses a significant risk to every road user.


Oh and yes i`ve also been "pursued" by an unmarked police car whilst riding.... yes I was speeding but my riding wasn`t considered dangerous. I put my hand up and admitted I was in the wrong, was extremely courteous and they let me off with a severe warning.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

That is not entrapment.

Originally Posted by wikipedia

Entrapment is the act of a law enforcement agent inducing a person to commit an offence which the person would otherwise have been unlikely to commit.[1] In many jurisdictions, entrapment is a possible defense against criminal guilt.

So you could argue if the copper hadn't been having a dice with him, then that dangerous driving charge or whatever would have simply been speeding.

The guys obviously been riding a bit quick before... but the coppers riding certainly didn't help matters. If another biker wants to play... most people will oblige them.