Death Penalty Poll

tbh i think the death penalty is good idea.

it will hopefully scare the majority of people to not do very bad crimes, and they will pay the ultimate consequence if they do. But only if there is hard evidence against that person

For me its simple, certain people dont deserve the right to walk amongst us, child molestors for instance have forfeited their right to live in a civilised society, it may not make people less inclined to rape children but at least it,ll take them out of the gene pool.

[timwilky]

I know 4 people who have been convicted of murder.

The first I worked with and was always a tad strange. He packed in his job, went to live in London and the next his name was all over the papers for killing his tgirlfriend and nastier stuff. The bells put him in Broadmoor.

The next was my next door neighbour, he started to suffer MS. He killed his wife in frustration at her behaviour towards him. The Prison system could not cope with him and he was released on licence next door to me. Nice chap.

The next was again a guy I worked with, he came home to find his wife in bed with another guy and the inevitable happened. He was released after about 8 years on licence.

The last is my mates bro. He shot back at a guy who shot at him. Missed but killed him with the ricochet, but had already publicly stated he was going to put him in a box. Serving life with a minimum of 21 years and the proceeds of crime are after a couple of million from him.

All the above would still have killed even if there was a death sentence. To argue it is a deterrent is plainly wrong. 2 above would never kill again. The other two are where they need to be.

Originally Posted by timwilky

I know 4 people who have been convicted of murder.

The first I worked with and was always a tad strange. He packed in his job, went to live in London and the next his name was all over the papers for killing his tgirlfriend and nastier stuff. The bells put him in Broadmoor.

The next was my next door neighbour, he started to suffer MS. He killed his wife in frustration at her behaviour towards him. The Prison system could not cope with him and he was released on licence next door to me. Nice chap.

The next was again a guy I worked with, he came home to find his wife in bed with another guy and the inevitable happened. He was released after about 8 years on licence.

The last is my mates bro. He shot back at a guy who shot at him. Missed but killed him with the ricochet, but had already publicly stated he was going to put him in a box. Serving life with a minimum of 21 years and the proceeds of crime are after a couple of million from him.

All the above would still have killed even if there was a death sentence. To argue it is a deterrent is plainly wrong. 2 above would never kill again. The other two are where they need to be.

Flipping eck 4 people?!

The worst person i know is a guy who nicked a waffle maker from debenhams!

+1 to what your saying. The death penalty is not needed. It would make no difference to the crime rate IMO. It would only serve to show that we dont have a society that is capable to actually deal with people insead of just putting them to death

I would always say yes.

But our legal system is so severely flawed that all we end up doing is killing stupid poor people.

Originally Posted by The Basket

I would always say yes.

But our legal system is so severely flawed that all we end up doing is killing stupid poor people.

There will always be victims, but if it protects one extra child then its worth it I beleive.

[Bibio]

this is better than arguing about politics/religion. superb keep it up folks i'm loving it.

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Bibio

this is better than arguing about politics/religion. superb keep it up folks i'm loving it.

Can't we turn this poll into a "let's hang the Scots, the Welsh and the Maltese?" go on, chase me chase me

[Bibio]

Originally Posted by Bri w

Can't we turn this poll into a "let's hang the Scots, the Welsh and the Maltese?" go on, chase me chase me

you forgot the bog leapers again m8.

[anna]

Eye for an eye and we all go blind.

So many times has this been quoted and still ignored. How many people would you choose to kill in order to give the illusion of being safe and secure? You will never be able to get rid of all "bad" people.

thulfi, I almost feel insulted by your post, you are insinuating that because I would not pull the trigger in your scenario that there is something wrong with me. Everyone reacts differently in any given situation and as has been said the above is merely an emotive response and so not applicable in law.

However, I have sat on a few jury panels and I have hated every single occasion. Reasonable doubt means that you don´t put someone in jail if there is "reasonable doubt" that they did not commit the crime. However, it´s a bit of a double edged sword because it means that whilst common sense tells you what has happened if there isn´t sufficient proof of DNA or other evidence then it isn´t enough to convict. However, not all juries see it in this way, and if a panel convicting on the death penalty was made up on the same basis then to be honest it would be flawed in the same ways.