Tell Us The Laws You Want Scrapped!

[yorkie_chris]

But in the pubs I'm on about the majority of people actually do smoke.

Should be freedom of choice on the matter, you don't want to go in a smoky pub, go to a non smoking one.

[timwilky]

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

Disagree, its a much more pleasant atmosphere without it and I don't appreciate the stink of it. By all means smoke but I don't want it thanks.

I don't smoke. However, I know that if I want to get a drink at stupid O'clock I have to give/take.

I hate the smell of smoke, I would have to go outside some places and let my eyes stop watering before I could go back in. However, once the staff have gone home and I am having to pour my own. I have to go with the flow.

There is one thing where things do go wrong. So the staff want a fag break. go outside for a smoke and then come back in pouring ale. My glass is contaminated by their dirty hands. They won't re use a glass for danger of cross contamination by the nozzle entering a used glass, yet don't realise they are making the glass stink, simply by getting hold of it. I tell them to wash their hands, deaf ears. Do I want a drink or not

Originally Posted by timwilky

So the staff want a fag break. go outside for a smoke and then come back in pouring ale. My glass is contaminated by their dirty hands.

I'd be more worried about when they'd been for a slash

Its the health thing that I don't like. I don't fancy suffering because of other peoples bad habits. I know it might be blown out of proportion but passive smoking is not good

I do love the fact that since the ban I can go out and provided I don't spill my clothes are not stinking of horrid stale smoke, or me for that matter.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

But in the pubs I'm on about the majority of people actually do smoke.

Should be freedom of choice on the matter, you don't want to go in a smoky pub, go to a non smoking one.

I dont think it is a majority these days...

I cant remember there being a local pub that was no smoking, closest one was in Barnsley and thats a fair treck for a drink.

Anyway, best leave it at that I guess. Dont want to derail too much... again...

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

I cant remember there being a local pub that was no smoking, closest one was in Barnsley and thats a fair treck for a drink.

And what does that tell you? - pubs didn't HAVE to allow smoking before the ban.

[timwilky]

I am sat in an office overlooking the local Harley Davidson dealership, before that it was a non smoking bar. The only one I knew of anywhere in the area. Unless there was artist playing, it was dead. But the target clientèle were definitely middle class with money to spend and prepared for one to drive.

Certainly my local boozers have all suffered as a result of the ban (And greedy management companies overcharging for ale)

I want the law that requires a knee-jerk reaction every time a freak offence causes moral outrage, and results in a majority of law-abiding people losing a little more freedom.

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by carternd

I want the law that requires a knee-jerk reaction every time a freak offence causes moral outrage, and results in a majority of law-abiding people losing a little more freedom.

You mean you would ban the Daily Mail?
Sounds good.

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

So why were they not charged and convicted of conspiacy to---whatever?
I cannot understand this countrys reluctance to prosecute these "terrorists",unless there is no evidence.If they cant produce evidence under our system of justice they are not guilty

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

You know what, this might really surprise you so you'd best sit down.

Even before the terror laws heroically introduced by Neu Arbieten, blowing yourself and dozens of innocent civilians to pieces was actually still illegal.

Your point being?
I said these people should be prosecuted then chucked out when they have done their time.But in any civilised society you need evidence rather than denouncement in the press followed by a whichunt.
Anyway Im sitting down and waiting to be surprised by your further revelations of my obvious dimness.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

Your point being?
I said these people should be prosecuted then chucked out when they have done their time.But in any civilised society you need evidence rather than denouncement in the press followed by a whichunt.
Anyway Im sitting down and waiting to be surprised by your further revelations of my obvious dimness.

Whoa I think you missed point there. That was a dig at labour introducing laws to limit personal freedoms to "stop terrorists"... when actually terrorism was kinda illegal anyway!

I agree with point you made.