Motorway Speed Cameras

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by ophic

But if you missed the sign, it wouldn't make a difference if the speed camera was visible or not as you wouldn't know what the limit was anyway.

It would to me, as I look out for the visible ones and slow down

On the M25 they are on the overhead gantries, so blend in & if you can remember the position of every gantry with a camera on, you're a better man than me.

I saw one blasting off flashes, as it was malfunctioning, I never knew it was there and its in a perfectly straight section, with no real need to control the speed of traffic. I don't have any issues with ones that are properly sited to slow traffic down to reduce accidents.

TBH I stick to the speed limits now & its pretty difficult to speed in one of our vans

[maviczap]

Originally Posted by Teejayexc

Isn't that Mavs point...if you don't know otherwise you'd assume the nsl was in force, shirley

Yes

[ophic]

I still don't get it. If you're over the NSL and you didn't see a speed camera and got caught, why is that wrong?

Also, if you're over the NSL and you didn't see a speed restriction sign and you slowed down to NSL because you did see a camera so you still got caught, why is that wrong?

And again if you didn't see that camera and didn't slow down at all and got caught, why is that wrong?

I'm failing to see the criticism here. Nor why it makes any difference at all what colour the camera is.

[Sir Trev]

The M25 variable limits can be a nuisance, especially when the speeds are being dropped as a situation worsens . Last week I just had time to slow from 60 to 50 when the overhead sign suddenly changed but the car in front did not and got flashed. Seems a little unfair and I hope he didn't get a NIP.

My grumble for toay. Idiots who do not clear the snow from their car light clusters. You have no idea when they're indicating or, worse, when they're braking. The latter is a nightmare when you find yourself on compacted snow on the ungritted A40!

Originally Posted by maviczap

I saw one blasting off flashes, as it was malfunctioning, I never knew it was there and its in a perfectly straight section, with no real need to control the speed of traffic. I don't have any issues with ones that are properly sited to slow traffic down to reduce accidents.

On the M25 they slow traffic down in one section to ease congestion in the next section, If people ignore the slower speed they don't work so the Cameras are needed even on straight sections to keep the traffic at the right speeds.

I don't like speed cameras but they can't catch you unless you're breaking the law and part of the law is driving with due care and attention which knowing the speed of the road your driving is part of.

[Heorot]

Originally Posted by Spank86

On the M25 they slow traffic down in one section to ease congestion in the next section, If people ignore the slower speed they don't work so the Cameras are needed even on straight sections to keep the traffic at the right speeds.

I don't like speed cameras but they can't catch you unless you're breaking the law and part of the law is driving with due care and attention which knowing the speed of the road your driving is part of.

We came back from the NEC to South Norfolk yesterday; M6, A14, A11, all dual carriageways. Hardly any cameras on the M6 or A14 until Huntingdonshire and then there were average sped camera all the way. Once out of Hunts and Cambs and into Suffolk and Norfolk, there were hardly any cameras at all.

So, a straight dual carriageway in Hunts & Cambs is more dangerous than the M6? I don’t think so. Money Money Money.

[Luckypants]

There has been a bit of discussion in the Gripe of the day thread and this is starting to derail the moaners.

So I've moved those posts into here to make it a proper discussion.

Enjoy!

[Luckypants]

My take on motorway speed cameras depends on how rigidly they enforce the limit. If they follow ACPO guidelines (see http://www.acpo.police.uk/documents/...afer-roads.pdf) then you won't be getting a ticket until you are doing 79mph. This would likely be 85mph on most vehicle speedos. If you drive over an indicated 85, I don't think you have room to complain if you get nicked by a speed camera, visible or not.

If they are nicking you and giving points at 71mph, seems rather harsh.

[Ch00]

Originally Posted by Heorot

So, a straight dual carriageway in Hunts & Cambs is more dangerous than the M6? I don’t think so.

Yes they can be.

Motorways have many rules. No cyclists, peds, motorbikes under 50cc, horses, tractors. No options to turn right across the other carriage way. Plenty of signage normally from at least a mile out as well as enforceable lane restrictions such a red X.

Dual carriageways can take all the slow vehicles as mentioned above mix them with 70mph traffic and have short notice signs 1/2 mile normally, possibly no slip roads just give ways.

[L3nny]

If you think speed cameras, are there to improve your safety you are deluded, they are about money and nothing else.

These new cameras simply make it easier for them to raise more money.