Can they tell it's not restricted?

Originally Posted by Holdup

In England if your under 21 then you have to be restricted to 33bhp for 2 years but if your over 21 you can ride any thing.

Woah, woah, hang on a sec there...im sorry, but WTF is all the fuss about so??

If yer under 21 there's no way you should be allowed on anything over 33bhp. 21 like, come on! And no im not some aul fart, im 26...

Try living over here lads....and then see how 'backward' your country is as someone put it a few pages back...

Originally Posted by noob-saibot

Woah, woah, hang on a sec there...im sorry, but WTF is all the fuss about so??

If yer under 21 there's no way you should be allowed on anything over 33bhp. 21 like, come on! And no im not some aul fart, im 26...

Try living over here lads....and then see how 'backward' your country is as someone put it a few pages back...

so are you saying that you would like to have our regulations.
Just spoke to family in Germany and have been told that you have to stick to a restriction untill you are 25

[Luckypants]

Originally Posted by Holdup

In England if your under 21 then you have to be restricted to 33bhp for 2 years but if your over 21 you can ride any thing.

1. This is the United Kingdom not England! England is a relatively small part of the UK.
2. If you are over 21 AND pass a Direct Access test (DAS) then you can ride anything. If you pass a standard test, you are still restricted to 33bhp for two years.
3. Under age 21 you cannot do Direct Access so by definition you HAVE to be restricted to 33 bhp for two years.
4. If you pass your test at 17, do two years restricted, then you can ride anything at 19.

[peterco]

Originally Posted by noob-saibot

What way have you guys got it over there?? Here in Ireland you pass your test and your then resticted to 33bhp for two years from the issue date of full license, whether your 21 or 57...
Same?

The law is the same in the UK.
If you take a test on a 125cc bike capable of 62mph and pass you are then restricted to 33bhp for 2 years from the date of pass regardless of age.

If over 21 you may take a Direct Access Route (DAS)
Direct access is a scheme which allows a person over the age of 21 to avoid the two year/25 kW restriction by taking a test on a machine of at least 35 kW (46.6 bhp). A pass allows you to ride any size of bike. Any instruction given on a machine that exceeds the normal learner motorcycle specification must be supervised at all times by a certified motorcycle instructor who should be in radio contact. You should also wear fluorescent or reflective clothing and follow all other provisional licence restrictions.

Accelerated access

Riders who reach the age of 21, while still within the two year period where they are restricted to maximum 25 kW (33 bhp) machines, but who wish to ride larger bikes need to pass a further test on a motorcycle of at least 35 kW (46.6 bhp). They may practise on bikes over 25 kW (33 bhp) under the same practice conditions for direct access riders. You will revert to learner status while practising (on a motorcycle greater than 25 kW (33 bhp)) although test failure will not affect your existing licence


pete

In the US you can just go buy a busa at 16 (14 in Alabama!) with a rubberstamp licence and no insurance and ride it home from the dealers without a helmet on. That's freedom of responsibility for you. You could have a gun under the seat legally too in many states, Hein Gericke probably do a special holder for it.

[SoulKiss]

Originally Posted by BanditPat

Honestly I don't really care what i sound like. I'm not going to accept the point of view from some one that didn't have to endure 33bhp. Some one that wasn't victimized when it comes to what they can ride because of their age and not having a single way around it with out breaking the law.

Dont like it?

Then dont whine like a baby (which shows a level of maturity which re-inforces the fact that restricted is just right for you)

Instead, write letters to your MP, to anyone that actually has a say in this law and ask for it to be changed.

Originally Posted by peterco

The law is the same in the UK.
If you take a test on a 125cc bike capable of 62mph and pass you are then restricted to 33bhp for 2 years from the date of pass regardless of age.

If over 21 you may take a Direct Access Route (DAS)
Direct access is a scheme which allows a person over the age of 21 to avoid the two year/25 kW restriction by taking a test on a machine of at least 35 kW (46.6 bhp). A pass allows you to ride any size of bike.

Aha, there's the catch and the difference! See we dont have DAS. So whether your 21 or 57 you must do 2 years 33bhp restriction after passing your full licence. Oh, yeah, you can do gold star advanced rider training blahdeeblah whatnots, but all these do is reduce your insurance premium..

I hear all the roads are crap in Ireland and you all need to ride Transalps so it can't be that bad can it?

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

In the case of an A2 licenced biker on a >33bhp machine having an at-fault claim against him by a 3rd party.

Not restricting it is just the first step in that. Am I being pedantic?

edit [this post directed at eds post #63]

Nope not quite Chris.

The MIB is for uninsured or untraced drivers.

If you were insured and the insurer subsequently avoids the policy because of some breach - eg, no restrictors fitted - then the insurer reamins liable but as statutory insurer only - the RTA preserves the liability for the third party. So the insurer has to pay. But in avoiding the policy, what it really means is that the insurer cancels your indemnity and so they can come after you for whatever they pay out.

Originally Posted by arenalife

I hear all the roads are crap in Ireland and you all need to ride Transalps so it can't be that bad can it?

Translaps....haha we had the celtic tiger, its all bmw's over here. And they all have to keep them now coz ya cant give bikes away in this climate...haha..

Yep, crap roads. You wouldnt believe how crap sometimes...honestly!