Teens and Early Twenties.....PLEASE!!

Originally Posted by DJFridge

It makes you think twice about what looks like a safe run off, doesn't it.

Originally Posted by -Ralph-

and buildings, and high kerbs, and bollards, and road signs, and telegraph poles, and lampposts, and armco, and garden walls, and parked cars, and bridges, and rock faces, and wheelie bins, and park benches, and bus shelters, and large ceramic plant pots, and...

Originally Posted by Bluefish

You trying to say, make the corner, make the corner, but no your not, because that would imply something had gone wrong, and what you really mean is if you were set up correctly in the first place ( position speed gear etc) then you don't really have to worry about those things?

All I'm trying to say is on the road there is very rarely such thing as a safe run off, once you've left the bike, it's pot luck what you hit. The only place with a safe run off is a race track. If you are actually thinking about safe run offs, get yourself on a track day.

Originally Posted by Owenski

Ralph admits he too thinks its BS

I certainly wouldn't say it's BS, I would just say that it isn't infallible, but no such report is. To do any kind of analysis you have to work with the data you have, decide upon a methodology, make some assumptions, and draw some conclusions. I do think though that kind of report carried out by an organisation like the DFT, or ROSPA, although not perfect, is the best source we have.

lol I agree more with your earlier statement then, stats are all lies.
The basis of that report is bloody weak, and if thats the strongest we can get then whats the point?
You know they should just use facebook, if that documentary the other night is correct then news and views spread quicker on there than they can through any other media.

Originally Posted by Owenski

The basis of that report is bloody weak, and if thats the strongest we can get then whats the point?

Well that's what the government are using to define their policies on motorbike road safety, and how they decide how to run the THINK! campaign, so if you think it's bloody weak, you'd better join MAG and get writing to the DFT!

In honesty though I have no better suggestion, you cant force people to respond. Short of doing road side stops across the country over a full 24 hour period of god knows how many days I couldnt give you an idea of where to get better figures from.
Like I said before, well over half of the respondants on that report took the old style test these people cannot be in the lowest age demographic. Of the remaining respondants less than 15% had taken DAS, so 15% of respondants were forming 100% of a demographic and thats NOT including those within that 15% who were taking thier test and were already over 30.
I hold my hands up I cant give you a legitimate alternative to that report but its just not got me convinced that motocylists over 30 outnumber those under 30 by 4:1.

I've got an idea, why dont we conduct our own poll right here on the org. I know you love poll's it'd need mulitple options but the gist could be.

Pick One which best describes you:

Age 16-30 Ride daily - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)
Age 16-30 Ride daily - Had a Serious Accident ROWV
Age 16-30 Ride daily - Had a serious accident on a bend
Age 16-30 Ride daily - Had a serious due to other (Mechanical, Weather)

Age 16-30 Ride for leasure - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)
Age 16-30 Ride for leasure - Had a Serious Accident ROWV
Age 16-30 Ride for leasure - Had a serious accident on a bend
Age 16-30 Ride for leasure - Had a serious due to other (Mechanical, Weather)

Age 31-45 Ride daily - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)
Age 31-45 Ride daily - Had a Serious Accident ROWV
Age 31-45 Ride daily - Had a serious accident on a bend
Age 31-45 Ride daily - Had a serious due to other (Mechanical, Weather)

Age 31-45 Ride for leasure - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)
Age 31-45 Ride for leasure - Had a Serious Accident ROWV
Age 31-45 Ride for leasure - Had a serious accident on a bend
Age 31-45 Ride for leasure - Had a serious due to other (Mechanical, Weather)

Age 46+ Ride daily - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)
Age 46+ Ride daily - Had a Serious Accident ROWV
Age 46+ Ride daily - Had a serious accident on a bend
Age 46+ Ride daily - Had a serious due to other (Mechanical, Weather)

Age 46+ Ride for leasure - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)
Age 46+ Ride for leasure - Had a Serious Accident ROWV
Age 46+ Ride for leasure - Had a serious accident on a bend
Age 46+ Ride for leasure - Had a serious due to other (Mechanical, Weather)

I'll belive what ever result that poll produced.

[MisterTommyH]

Age 16-30 Ride for leasure - Never had a Serious Accident (involved emergencey services)

[dizzyblonde]

Age 26-35.(spanned both groups)

Commute, ride daily(rarely now), leisure, pleasure, Euro, anytime, any weather. Done the lot.

Never had a serious accident(involving emergency services).

One off at 10mph.

One collision with deer.

[Balky001]

Age 31-45. Commuted and rode daily but now ride for leisure. Never had serious accident (involving ES) (2 offs below 50mph, several near misses)

*FACEPALM

No I meant an actual poll lol not responding in here.

[MisterTommyH]

But there's too many options....

I thought you'd volunteered to collate all the data and make graphs and everything