9/11 what really happened?

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by Jelster

Ah, I see....

I never said I didn't find what was being said of interest, I just felt it was out of place. And I didn't say they were "mates" either, just people I have met off of the forum (I do meet and ride with a number of people wha actually like to get on a bike and take it out of London from time to time, rather than chat about it or discuss politics, but each to their own I guess).

Everyone can air a view unless you don't like what's said.... Pots and kettles mate....

I'll leave you wise folk to discuss the evils of the world and how to put it right, between the lot of you must have the brain power, I mean, you've got the US and western governments all sussed already. Maybe you should stand for office ?

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So now youre suggesting that i dont ride my bike either? sheesh, get a grip will ya.
And it seems we clearly have enough brain power to carry out a sensible discusion without it having truned into a name calling slanging match too.
Maybe i should stand for office?

Maybe, but maybe you should stand in the corner with your hands on your head till you learn how to stop making posts that do nothing more than have a subtlke dig at people.

At least i dont do subtle, i'll tell you straight out what i think of your frankly ever increasingly petty minded posts.

Someone just told me that Jelster doesn't own this forum........ is that true????? I was under the impression that this was his baby he was being so protective of.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Someone just told me that Jelster doesn't own this forum........ is that true????? I was under the impression that this was his baby he was being so protective of.

No Steve doesnt own the forum. As moderators all we do is run the forum on behalf of John ( Admin )

Akabar, why do you keep having little digs at Steve if I didnt know better I would have said you were playing some childish game to get a rise out of him.

Originally Posted by fizzwheel

Akabar, why do you keep having little digs at Steve if I didnt know better I would have said you were playing some childish game to get a rise out of him.

Weird, if you replace a couple of words at random in that statement, it still makes perfect sense:

Steve, why do you keep having little digs at others if I didnt know better I would have said you were playing some childish game to get a rise out of them.

I hope that answers your question Fizz.

as this thread has been derailed should it not be locked?

Originally Posted by Tara

as this thread has been derailed should it not be locked?

Good question Tara, maybe you're right. But then that was probably the aim of some posters when they launched into their little snide digs at others.

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Weird, if you replace a couple of words at random in that statement, it still makes perfect sense:

I hope that answers your question Fizz.

I agree he does that to. Yet Lyn and Spidey manage to rise above it and challenge him to explain why he posts them.

So no you havent answered my question, You've just retyped what I wrote and have dodged the inital question I asked you.

I personally thought that Lyn and Spidey had sorted things out with Steve and let the matter drop. Yet you saw fit to bring it up again with your IMHO childish remark just now.

I just wandered why thats all ?

[fizzwheel]

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Good question Tara, maybe you're right. But then that was probably the aim of some posters when they launched into their little snide digs at others.

Nope I'm not locking it.

I've learnt alot from reading this thread. Stuff I didnt know and wasnt aware of. Personally to me its not a subject I wish to discuss. But I can see that for some forum users its a subject they find interesting and I dont see why an adult discussion and debate can't continue to be had on this subject.

I would prefer it if it stayed on topic though.

Yet Lyn and Spidey manage to rise above it and challenge him to explain why he posts them.

I guess i'm just not as mature as Lynw and Spidey.

I just wandered why thats all ?

In all honesty....... because of the way that Jelster obviously spams any thread on IB that he doesn't want to see there, I was under the impression that he feels the need for attention. So I felt that my little post dedicated especially to him, would offer the much needed attention and would also serve as a peace offereing; kinda like the proverbial olive branch. I genuinely feel that myself and Jelster could be the best of mates if we could just put all of this nonsnse behind us.

On topic from now on sir.

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Lol @ answering my own point - so you think it is acceptable to invade a country because they wouldn't trade with you, and then dress it up as National security?

No I dont. While I dont believe the conspiracys over 9/11 that doesnt equate to agreeing with the Bush administrations policies. If the UN had sanctioned the invasion then I think it would be different. For example the involvement in Bosnia being a UN sanctioned action to try and prevent further genocide was warranted. Late though it was.

Yes, you arecorrect in saying that the US has always done what it wanted to. But previously, they weren't as likely to openly invade a country, rather get some locals to do it for them.

What you are seeing in Iraq is the testing of their new doctrine....... and they will use it again.

Now Im not so sure on this. American opinion is very definitely turning against this policy. The fact they are talking withdrawal at this stage and leaving the country in a mess harks back to the Vietnam withdrawal. I see it as someone wise enough in the WH pointing out to stay will mean Iraq will be the next Vietnam.

The cost to the Americans was I believe negated on the revenues they thought they would incur on the rebuilding of the country. Now theyre realising that wont be forthcoming theyre starting to see the dire straights theyre in.

I dont see Iran happening just yet. Give them time to fix their economy. Also no matter how much they posture, Venezuela will be a bigger problem than Iran. The change of government is a bigger threat to their oil supplies than Iran is.