9/11 what really happened?

Originally Posted by northwind

Oh dear. Have you fallen for "You're either for us or against us"? It's possibly to criticise GWB without being an Osama Bin Laden cheerleader you know.

Oh NO! I do realise that - I was just supporting Spiderman by pointing out that two extreme poles of political thought both listen to their God...but one was obviously more justified in doing so than the other. No, I'm with you guys in the "GWB is as thick as a brick" camp... I mean, do you KNOW how many people get accepted on to Harvard Business School's MBA programme each year? 1800!! I ask you! Now if he'd done an MBA at Leicester or Kent, that would be far more meaningful and exclusive - only about 70 or 80 a year there!!

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

For example, the US very regularly donates aid to people in the world that are less well of than they are - this, I am quite often cynical of - simply because time and time again, they tend to give aid when anfd to whom it suits.

Imo I think this illustrates quite nicely that you are indeed subjective, and bias against the US in general. What do you expect the US to do, give money to people who it DOESNT suit?

Would you see fellow arab countries donating money to the Palestinians, for example, as cynical too?

There's no such thing as a truely selfless act, so I don't really see how you can consider giving aid as cynical. Aid is aid, if it benefits both parties, so be it.

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

In all honesty....... because of the way that Jelster obviously spams any thread on IB that he doesn't want to see there, I was under the impression that he feels the need for attention. So I felt that my little post dedicated especially to him, would offer the much needed attention and would also serve as a peace offereing; kinda like the proverbial olive branch. I genuinely feel that myself and Jelster could be the best of mates if we could just put all of this nonsnse behind us.

On topic from now on sir.

Words fail me. Your 'olive branch' is riddled with worms and you KNOW it. This post shows it for all to see.

The better man would've just let it lie and he did.

Stop your personal digs Akbar, they belittle you.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Imo I think this illustrates quite nicely that you are indeed subjective, and bias against the US in general. What do you expect the US to do, give money to people who it DOESNT suit?

Would you see fellow arab countries donating money to the Palestinians, for example, as cynical too?

There's no such thing as a truely selfless act, so I don't really see how you can consider giving aid as cynical. Aid is aid, if it benefits both parties, so be it.

Seriously, please start reading my posts. I didn't say that giving aid was cynical..... I said that I was cynical of the reasons that aid is often given.

lol @ someone that refers to my 'fellow arab countries' and is seen to be criticising my objectivity in the same post. Just lol.

Originally Posted by Ping

Words fail me. Your 'olive branch' is riddled with worms and you KNOW it. This post shows it for all to see.

The better man would've just let it lie and he did.

Stop your personal digs Akbar, they belittle you.

Hmmmm, let it lie, ofcourse he did. My post was intended to mock the fact that he still keeps turning up on these threads, despite the fact that he needs everyone to know that he despises them.

I've already been quizzed on this by Fizz; and I believe the conclusion was that I am not yet mature enough to rise above these things. I will try harder in future Ping, I promise.

Akbar, can't you go and LOL somewhere else for a bit?

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Seriously, please start reading my posts. I didn't say that giving aid was cynical..... I said that I was cynical of the reasons that aid is often given.

I did read your post. Aid doesnt just distribute itself of its own accord, there has to be reasoning behind it - therefore to say that the action and the reasoning are mutualy exclusive is nonsense. It's either cynical or it isnt.

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

lol @ someone that refers to my 'fellow arab countries' and is seen to be criticising my objectivity in the same post. Just lol.

I didnt say your fellow arab countries anywhere.

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

I did read your post. Aid doesnt just distribute itself of its own accord, there has to be reasoning behind it - therefore to say that the action and the reasoning are mutualy exclusive is nonsense. It's either cynical or it isnt.

I didnt say your fellow arab countries anywhere.

Ridiculous.

So whose 'fellow' arab countries were you referring to? Or just poor grammar in that particular post.

Originally Posted by helen

Akbar, can't you go and LOL somewhere else for a bit?

Nope, too many posts to be lol'ed at here i'm afraid.

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

Ridiculous.

What? How can you seriously say that actions arent based on reasoning? That makes no sense.

Originally Posted by akbarhussain

So whose 'fellow' arab countries were you referring to? Or just poor grammar in that particular post.

Are you having a laugh? Countries allied to Palestine then, is that clearer?