zx10 rear shock basic settings

my point is that kwak shocks have been bad for years with no consistancy, one will have way too much rebound the next not enough and the same on compression.
there are good shocks about for £300 and the difference is dramatic, the spring may be in the ball park but noone takes in to consideration the leverage ratio of the linkage which will effect the damping higher up the shocks stroke, with too much or not enough high speed damping.

just cant see the point of doing a half job when doing it right is so much better

[flymo]

I have my Ohlins on the way Rob (thanks for your help over the phone by the way) but it wont be here until April 10th at least apparently ! aaaargh.

So I have a race to do before then on the GSXR1000 shock. I was going to go with mid settings on damping all round and see where we go from there until the nice kit turns up.

Good thing is that I'll be able to compare back to back in a around 4 weeks.

Altho i should be flamed, banned, tarred and feathered for asking this.

The GSXR1000 shock, i assume this will only fit the Sv1000.

I'd be some what interested in replacing my back shock, it's stock, and acceptable, but if i could upgrade it to some thing else with out splashing a fortune much like the OP i would.

[flymo]

Originally Posted by drag

Altho i should be flamed, banned, tarred and feathered for asking this.

The GSXR1000 shock, i assume this will only fit the Sv1000.

I'd be some what interested in replacing my back shock, it's stock, and acceptable, but if i could upgrade it to some thing else with out splashing a fortune much like the OP i would.

not at all, it will fit the SV650 pretty easily too. There are a few minor mods required such as the bottom of the battery box but other than that no problem.

Originally Posted by flymo_racer

not at all, it will fit the SV650 pretty easily too. There are a few minor mods required such as the bottom of the battery box but other than that no problem.

I may consider taking your one off you if the price is right

once you get ure new ohlins, assume you want.

The battery box mod is pretty common, and i assume the gsxr shock is in general quite good, as they do say, those gixers stick to the road quite well.

d.

[flymo]

Originally Posted by drag

I may consider taking your one off you if the price is right

once you get ure new ohlins, assume you want.

The battery box mod is pretty common, and i assume the gsxr shock is in general quite good, as they do say, those gixers stick to the road quite well.

d.

of course, was going to pop it on here for sale first as soon as my race shock arrives. Only reason I'm changing is that the GSXR shock is not up to the job of racing on an SV650.

Originally Posted by flymo_racer

of course, was going to pop it on here for sale first as soon as my race shock arrives. Only reason I'm changing is that the GSXR shock is not up to the job of racing on an SV650.

Exactally and i believe thats the OP's point also, if you';re not racing then there no point in splashing out £400+ for a shock when chances are you wont notice the diff.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Robw#70

my point is that kwak shocks have been bad for years with no consistancy, one will have way too much rebound the next not enough and the same on compression.
there are good shocks about for £300 and the difference is dramatic, the spring may be in the ball park but noone takes in to consideration the leverage ratio of the linkage which will effect the damping higher up the shocks stroke, with too much or not enough high speed damping.

just cant see the point of doing a half job when doing it right is so much better

Yeah you've got a point, but I can't afford £300. How much would a revalve be? or is that getting to the point where you might as well pay for a designed-for-purpose aftermarket shock?
What's the 636 shock like?

[northwind]

Originally Posted by Robw#70

my point is that kwak shocks have been bad for years with no consistancy, one will have way too much rebound the next not enough and the same on compression.

It is quite funny that for a long time the favourite shock for the curvy SV- 03-04 636- was also the absolute worst shock fitted to any of the supersport bikes, by a country mile... Though to be fair, having ridden that 636 and an SV with the shock in, the shock seemed to suit the SV better than the donor bike! I'd like to try this with the more recent 636 shock though.

My advice for any sort of suspension setup is- set the sag right, stick it in the middle, fanny about with everything else. You can get some horrible results with a fully adjustable shock doing this (particularily as for the inexperienced, which is what I am, it's very easy to adjust the wrong setting- for instance mine was squatty so I increased the compression damping, but the problem was that it had far too much rebound damping so the shock would "pack" over bumps and still be compressed from the last one when it hit the next. So, now I had too much rebound AND too much compression damping )

So, if that doesn't sound like fun to you, consider taking it to a pro- but remember a lot of places aren't going to be too happy to work on such a compromised setup.

No matter what, any shock swap like this will always be a compromise, in fact even with a mass produced bike the suspension is always a compromise- and don't think that just because it's adjustable you'll get a perfect setup. The idea of the swas has never been to do it perfectly, it's to do a ?40 job reasonably well. Which I think it does, personally- I have Ohlins and WP shock for the SV but I could be happy enough on a 636 one.

This seemed like a good place to post.

What year zx10 shocks will go on a curvy SV?
I have seen an 04 one on ebay, and wondered if it would fit. or is there a better non Ohlins shock to use.

Also have anyone got a pic of what needs to be cut away on the battery box? and how much do you need to raise the battery up?