Leaving a job.....

Graeme,

Perhaps the grass is greener on the other side? You'll never know till you explore.

If you find it isn't, you may have to eat humble pie and return to your current job. Sounds like your boss would be desperate enough to re employ you?

try developing somthing in your spare time. set up a small business or even just chat the ladies up by emials???

Ask for a 50% pay increase an audi tt sports company car and a mahognay desk with a full size pinball table and atari arcade machine in the office.

You wont be bored then!!!!!......(my dream job)

Graeme what is it you do?

When you say "boss"........is this a local office?, head office?, the only office?! and does he who own the Company? If their is a Head Office, yer need the Chairman or a Director (even if listed), otherwise yer need the owner / principal shareholder.............

Cos' bearing in mind you are borderline leaving anyway and seem confident in lining something else up why not take a "sh#t or bust" approach to the "BIG boss" with a written report stating how things are at the company, what is not working and why and projections as to how things will go if things carry on as they are (employing morons in crucial positions = lost business = big clearout (including of Bosses) or closure......yer don't need an MA in Rocket Science to see all that coming down the pipe.....a furough so often plowed )..........AND presenting a plan to sort things out, with projections for the future......obviously you will be a major player in this plan .....depending on timescale / amounts involved I would try and get performance related bonuses for yourself.......tell him that unless he takes onboard that the Status Quo is not an option and can show you changes (for the better!) that you know are needed in very short order (even if he does not follow your exact plan - give you everything yer want / dream about!).......that otherwise you will be leaving because you are not going down with the sinking ship.

Remember that where there is Chaos their is often opportunity.....not always, but often enuf........

However, unfortunately some folk can only see the Abyss.......once they hit the bottom, simply because it is too scary to contemplate

[Ruffy]

Remember that you can apply for other jobs to test the water. Even if you get offered the job, you don't have to take it. Either way, the interview practice will be useful for you.

Regarding loyalty, I also found it hard to leave my first real job, but when I eventually did, it made me realise just how misplaced my loyalty was. (Second job change was much easier!) Ultimately you are employed to add value to the company bottom line, and should be rewarded appropriately for what you do. If the balance isn't right then you should feel no guilt about trying to change it.

Originally Posted by Ruffy

Ultimately you are employed to add value to the company bottom line, and should be rewarded appropriately for what you do. If the balance isn't right then you should feel no guilt about trying to change it.

Loyalty WAS a two way street..........one side of that dissapeared longgggggggggg ago, if it ever really existed in business.

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Originally Posted by Wayluya

When you say "boss"........is this a local office?, head office?, the only office?! and does he who own the Company? If their is a Head Office, yer need the Chairman or a Director (even if listed), otherwise yer need the owner / principal shareholder.............

Boss....the person I report directly to is the managing director. It is a local office to be fair, but we have about 30 offices in the UK and loads internationaly so prospects are long term quite interesting, most of the parnters and directors are based in my office though.

I have had it out with them once when I got headhunted by another large competitor, which is the reason I got the 21% payrise. But even then in reality my pay is not inline with what I could get elsewhere.

There is 2 other guys in my office who feel exactly the same way, and worse, as they didnt get payrises so it will be interesting to see what happends at the end of the month. It was dicussed about starting up on our own in jest, but that really could work however is unlikely due to their age and commitments/not wanting to take risks.

As it stands at the moment I spent an hour last night updating my CV which I'm definately going to be sending off....something has given me a kick in the **** and I actually got abit excited about it last night . Change is needed.

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CV is now 100% and has been sent off to a job I'm particularly interested in. Feel loads better already.


I accidently stirred the big wooden spoon at work today. I came across an advert with a recruitment consultancy which looked remarkably like it had been written by my work.

The pay they were offering for a very intermediate role was a fair bit more than I get and about the same as what the executives doing my role get.....they were not happy.

Originally Posted by graemepaterson

CV is now 100% and has been sent off to a job I'm particularly interested in. Feel loads better already.


I accidently stirred the big wooden spoon at work today. I came across an advert with a recruitment consultancy which looked remarkably like it had been written by my work.

The pay they were offering for a very intermediate role was a fair bit more than I get and about the same as what the executives doing my role get.....they were not happy.

kepp it stirring mate.! they may give u more money

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Originally Posted by blueto

kepp it stirring mate.! they may give u more money

I stirred and got a 21% payrise recently.....I honestly dont think another payrise would make me feel any better.....the money isnt a major factor, i dont enjoy working here and the atmosphere is horrible and getting worse.