who are we !!!!!

Puufffff...well Lone Wolf our brains have evolved to second guess everything , have you ever wondered why it is we as a human race went from a horse and carriage to going to the moon in a time span of 100 years , yet mankind has been around for thousands (pretty giant leap in such a short time)

[Paul the 6th]

maybe because of all the wars?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

maybe because of all the wars?

Wars and battles have shaped the human race into what it is today.

The medicine and techniques used today, mobile phones, computers, internet, the list goes on and on....

[Stingo]

Originally Posted by Paul the 6th

I'm not particularly afraid of dying. I'm more afraid of a long and drawn out painful death.

I'll go with paul on this one. I hope you're not the bringer of my demise paul, because if GTA is anything to go by, you'll have to run me over a few times

I'm not a fan of further lives either. I accept that our matter is passed on to other things, thats just how life works. But I know I'm not going to wake up one day and find myself living as a cat, wondering how I can best tempt my owner into either 1) stroking my tummy or 2) feeding me more

You know, at the real fundamental's of it all, we just conform to thermodynamics, just like everyhting else.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Wars and battles have shaped the human race into what it is today.

The medicine and techniques used today, mobile phones, computers, internet, the list goes on and on....

Hate to break it to you but warfare is nothing new, it's been around since the beginning of mankind , take a look at Ancient Egypt they surely had architectural and engineering skills , never mind astronomical knowledge(even today's engineers can't figure out how the built the pyramids) . With that in mind this item was discovered in a tomb (perhaps even aviation knowledge) http://www.catchpenny.org/model.html were talking 200BC , that's a long ways from the present 100 years of surge in technology
I'm not saying that Moore's law is wrong but anyone could predict the future and make 12 statements about it and chances are 6 of those statements will be a hit in the future.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/n...edictions.html

Originally Posted by hang man

Hate to break it to you but warfare is nothing new, it's been around since the beginning of mankind

Who said anything about modern warfare, what I mean is war over the entire time the human race has been on this planet has shaped us in to what we are today. I simply used medicine and technology as it is what we are used to now a days.

[Paul the 6th]

i have a massive hangover/.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Wars and battles have shaped the human race into what it is today.

The medicine and techniques used today, mobile phones, computers, internet, the list goes on and on....

I think a lot of things have been shaped by war (medicen sure, ways to put people back together) but no way the modern computer is due to War (last 20-30 years...) I mean the computers and equipment the RAF use is so far behind time they arnt the one pushing the envelope.

Same for Internet thats no way war driven either imo. Mobile phones, maybe the origional tech was from a war project ages ago but modern stuff is consumer driven.

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

no way the modern computer is due to War (last 20-30 years...) I mean the computers and equipment the RAF use is so far behind time they arnt the one pushing the envelope.

No offence, but the RAF have been a little behind the times for a very long time now. Towards the end of WWII they began to lag behind technology wise, they reinvented them selves in the 50's-70's but since then it has all been about getting the most of what is left. Look at the Falklands campaign, nothing but the Avro Vulcan could do the job and most of those aircraft had already been scraped and the remaining few were earmarked for retirement. The new Typhoon for example is a 15 year old design, and it still doesn't work to its specification.

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

Same for Internet thats no way war driven either.

The modern US military is driven by computers and the internet, okay it was not a live war but the Cold War produced a lot of stuff which is now the basics of what is now public.

Originally Posted by ThEGr33k

Mobile phones, maybe the origional tech was from a war project ages ago but modern stuff is consumer driven.

I am not saying everything in this world was developed by war, but the mobile phone was started this way. You are right, the public market is a huge contributor of development for products but a lot of the basic invention came from battle.

The amount of technology that is yet to be filtered down to the public sector is unbelievable, making it public isn't always the best thing to do though.