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[yorkie_chris]

Wait for zadar to appear. I did TRE on mine, but only as I was rewiring it at the time and it saved running another 2 wires lol.

i think its just the fuelling to get it through the latest emission regs
my k8 seems a bit off sometimes when holding it between 3500-4500rpm

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Speak to any true SV tuner, the usual known BS'ers will tell you it works but the professionals will tell you the truth!

So there are no publicly available tests then?

[yorkie_chris]

Look at the ones put out by the people making TRE's

Hey - I'm sure everybody is right, I'd just like something slightly more empirical than somebody saying it does or doesn't. I haven't got one fitted, and I don't intend to; but I would like to see something that would settle the arguement (for me).

Originally Posted by simesb

So there are no publicly available tests then?

Again, read.... Speak to any true SV tuner, the usual known BS'ers will tell you it works but the professionals will tell you the truth!

Originally Posted by simesb

Hey - I'm sure everybody is right, I'd just like something slightly more empirical than somebody saying it does or doesn't. I haven't got one fitted, and I don't intend to; but I would like to see something that would settle the arguement (for me).

We go through this crap at least every other month now, the only public test results that show it to work come from the manufacturers of TRE's. No SV tuner has ever been able to replicate those results, speak to them!

I am not saying they do not work at all on all bikes, just SV650's. Nobody has ever been able to replicate or create the manufacturers stated results using a TRE on a SV650.

I no more take the manufacturers word for them working than I take yours for them not (although you talk a lot of sense on here so I would be more inclined to believe you). You say tuners have tested them and not been able to replicate the results - great; that just adds weight to your argument. What I am trying to say is there is no published independent verification.

If tuners have tested them and found no difference, the results could be published to show that. The very fact that we have threads on here every other month shows that this information is not available to the general public.

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

You won't because the SV is only very slightly retarded, anyone says they can then it all in there head to be honest!

Here is a dyno print out, as you can see it isn't a difference you are gonna feel with your **** dyno.

Although I have found this for the g-pack you have fitted. My inference from this post is that the g-pack has a marginal effect.

I have a G-Packed fitted, I got it off of a breaker, and no difference came from having it fitted. It was dyno'd with this one and a new one and there was nothing in it at all. Now going by the telephone number on that print out that was a while ago, now I believe JHS will tell you they do not work.

Also note that the print out is a comparison between 3rd gear and 4th gear, not a before and after!

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

Also note that the print out is a comparison between 3rd gear and 4th gear, not a before and after!

Ah yes, now I have found the source. The JHS argument is that 4th gear max bhp is 1.5(2%) higher than 3rd, and that the g-pack makes the bike think it is in 4th. And it would also appear to be on a curvy.

I know I wouldn't be able to feel a difference such as that. As a slight derail, how does it compare pound-for-pound with the 10 extra horses their 750 kit gives you?

[yorkie_chris]

Lol, engine tuning makes no sense at all.