There's probably no god...

[timwilky]

I do not feel sorry for anyone with beliefs. It is there own private life.

Does this give anyone the right to "spread the word" in my direction? no.

I therefore wonder about the advert. Yes I approve of it. But personally I think there should be no advertising of any religious matters (either way/belief etc.) to make things fair.

That means no to this advert and all the others you see outside of churches etc.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

but don't forget god loves you right?

hell is just an example of the "do what i say or i'll hit you" method of frightening people, or in the church's case, children, into believing what they say against all instinct of logic and common sense, because even a child's probing questions are enough to bring the whole charade crumbling down

not really... thats why its called faith...

other wise it would be a church of science... but then there is the whole argument of science

Originally Posted by timwilky

I do not feel sorry for anyone with beliefs. It is there own private life.

Does this give anyone the right to "spread the word" in my direction? no.

I therefore wonder about the advert. Yes I approve of it. But personally I think there should be no advertising of any religious matters (either way/belief etc.) to make things fair.

That means no to this advert and all the others you see outside of churches etc.

+1m!

If someone believes in god / religion / anything that improves their lives for their sake then its a good thing....FOR THEM.

I for one believe in myself

i do not want to be shouted at via megaphone in the street about how im going to hell / jesus loves you etc.....

so i agree with no advertising whatsoever of any religious kind, why does an entity advertise usually? to raise awareness of the "brand"? why raise awareness of the "brand"? to make more money, but thats a different issue....

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by 454697819

not really...

not really what?

if hell isn't simply a way of frightening people then what purpose does it serve?

hmmm can sort of see where this thread maybe going......

will religion cause some bad feeling in the org shortly....

[Gazza77]

I like the way that they aren't sure about it. "There is probably no god." Makes me laugh anyway.

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Dappa D

will religion cause some bad feeling in the org shortly....

i don't think so, and i'd hope not - if i met anyone in real life i wouldn't press the issue unless they wanted to talk about it, once i'm on the bike you're just another biker to me

the point of the thread, aside from pointing out the amusing hypocrisy of "Christian Voice" is that as someone raised for 18 years in a christian family, who then went to study science at university, i genuinely don't understand how the religious mind can operate without experiencing the nagging doubts and feelings of incomplete explanations that the whole idea of a creator god threw up for me. the more i looked into the claims from religion the more holes i found, and it surprises me that people aren't more interested in looking for themselves, or how easily they dismiss our observations of the world to defend their chosen faith

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by Gazza77

I like the way that they aren't sure about it. "There is probably no god." Makes me laugh anyway.

Gazza, that was a deliberate joke, you cannot "prove" there is no god, because the concept of god is non-scientific, you could always claim that the universal evidence that god doesn't exist is simply god using his infinite power to hide from us

or to condense it to the popular theist cop out:

"god moves in mysterious ways"

edit: see "Russell's teapot" for a better explanation

Think some people are confusing god with religion, they are not thesame thing. If someone has a belief in god (whichever one) then that is their belief / faith religion ok the otherhand is susceptable to all the failings and misconceptions of man. Hence the multiple different "types" of Christianity or any other religion.

Originally Posted by the_lone_wolf

the point of the thread, aside from pointing out the amusing hypocrisy of "Christian Voice" is that as someone raised for 18 years in a christian family, who then went to study science at university, i genuinely don't understand how the religious mind can operate without experiencing the nagging doubts and feelings of incomplete explanations that the whole idea of a creator god threw up for me. the more i looked into the claims from religion the more holes i found, and it surprises me that people aren't more interested in looking for themselves, or how easily they dismiss our observations of the world to defend their chosen faith

I completely agree, it doesnt make logical sense, but who are you or I to question other peoples beliefs and thought processes.....(unless someone else brings it up !)