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Old 12-07-09, 03:09 PM   #11
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Find out where the grips were wired into, check around there. Sounds like an earthing problem due to the wiredness.

When you rewire the hotgrips, do it through a relay.
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Old 13-07-09, 07:05 AM   #12
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Right cheers chris I'll give that a crack tonight, I considered bad earth too when it appeared to be working fine but when I pressed the ignition button it cocked up again.
I hadn't stripped it down yet but there was a two pin lean coming from under the front of the fram(/tank) that they were plugged into so it shouldn't be too hard to follow.
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Old 13-07-09, 07:59 AM   #13
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Old 14-07-09, 04:19 PM   #14
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Right this confuses me, went to try the bike today worked ok but I pressed the hotgrips button and it turned off the clocks and associated electrics again, pressed the button again and it went back to normal. Stopped the engine rearmed the alarm and tried again with the other key and fob, still the same.
unplugged the hotgrips control unit from the bike but assoon as I press the ignition button the clocks go off for a second and restart (although don't go away completely as they were doing) for the next few seconds/10 seconds on the tick over they flicker as if being interfered with by the vibrations.

So says to me lose connection or bad earth - does anyone know which/where these would be?
The fact a flick of the button (of the switch that was wired into the associated electrics) was turning off the clocks (ie creating the same symptoms) to me, doesn't seem like a coincidence. I'm guessing (I know very little about bike electrics) pressing the hot grips switch in that circuit was earthing out the bike and losing my clocks but when I unpressed the switch the system went back to normal. Something is also having the same affect on the bike and it seems to be vibration/movement related.
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Old 14-07-09, 04:43 PM   #15
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remember GMII, and the name badger springs to mind.... go and check the connector it might be breaking down/burning out.
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Old 14-07-09, 04:47 PM   #16
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I'll tell you why it's bloody vibration affected it's the tiltswitch in the alarm! whenever the tiltswitch is activated it cuts out the clocks. I'm just wondering if maybe the ignition fuse has gone and it's using the fuse inline with the alarm? is that possible? Other than that I'm out of ideas short of ripping out the alarm but I don't wanna do that as it brings my insurance down (every penny counts at my age!) and it's also reasonably useful for when parking in dodgy areas (I won't mention any names...)
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Old 14-07-09, 04:48 PM   #17
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remember GMII, and the name badger springs to mind.... go and check the connector it might be breaking down/burning out.
Good call - about to rip the seat off and tank up will have a peak ..just a pain in the **** with no tools (all with GP's cbr)
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Old 14-07-09, 05:22 PM   #18
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Swapped the ignition fuse, cleaned the battery terminals, reseated and cleaned every fuse and every connection I could find and sprayed with wurth equivelent wd40.
Problem appears to have gone after a two minute test.
Before the clocks would go off for a slightly longer period after clicking the ignition button (or foir good) and would flick on / off when shaken. The clock had set to '1:00' and had 'chec' next to it, the word 'chec' has now cleared too.
fingers crossed...

Does anyone know if putting the bike on trickle charge would affect a datatool alarm?

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Does anyone know if putting the bike on trickle charge would affect a datatool alarm?

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I use an optimate on my K3 with a Datatool Sys 3 and have no problems, infact its recommened that you use trickle chargers if you have an alarm.

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I use an optimate on my K3 with a Datatool Sys 3 and have no problems, infact its recommened that you use trickle chargers if you have an alarm.
that's good to hear cause I plonked my optimate onto it last night
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