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Old 24-09-09, 06:35 PM   #11
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Ah, i like less of a crunch from my gearbox

so how would i get more of a crunch from my toast?
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Old 24-09-09, 06:48 PM   #12
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I use castrol oil, Semi synth 10w40. I encounter no problems.

Falsie neutrals can also stem from incorrect chain tension (I found I got a few when my chain was a little tight)

Jambo, why go up rather than down?
I confess I was/am a bit skeptical about whether the oil made the difference myself. I did switch to that during the process of a full service, but the (same) chain has at times been filthy since, cleaned and adjusted often, clutch-lever and worm drive adjusted and cleaned as always, no other changes to how I look after it, I never let it get bad anyway. So after eliminating everything else I put it down to the oil.

It was Power 1 GPS 10W40 ftr.
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Old 24-09-09, 08:08 PM   #13
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Jambo, why go up rather than down?
Just in case. I'm never _quite_ sure if it's jumped up half a gear or down half a gear, normally when it's jumped I've been 'on' it so dropping down a gear if it's jumped down could result in much back squirmyness and a new set of boxers. Going up is just safer all round.

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Old 24-09-09, 08:09 PM   #14
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Less of a crunch!
I think it's also to prevent locking up the rear wheel, if you mess up on a gear change unless you're really confident then you're supposed* to up shift.


* granted, what you're supposed to do and what actually happens are usually very different things!
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Old 24-09-09, 08:18 PM   #15
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And prevent over-revving the engine. Which is going to be more expensive!
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Old 25-09-09, 10:51 AM   #16
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I'd also say change up not down. I'm not too up on the finer details of how the gearbox works, but it always seems happier to do it that way round. Add to it, in one extreme and isolated case, my old FZ600 with its agricultural gearbox got jammed during shifting when my ex was riding it. She tried changing down and it locked for just long enough to spit her off and throw itself to the ground.
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Old 08-07-10, 11:51 AM   #17
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yo, I have same problem on K2 naked sv 650.

I have tryed: Oil change
New chain
Clutch + chain adjustment
firmer footwork.

Still the problem continues. I thought it was bearable happening in 4th-5th-6th on motorways but its started happening in 2nd-3rd now too.

Almost killed me and my girlfriend yesterday 5 meters fae my front door as I pulled out onto the road and it jumped into neutral on the wrong side of the road. not good
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Old 08-07-10, 12:10 PM   #18
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another pretty good option is to look at the Factory Pro shift kits, they replace the gear shift detent arm and spring along with the shift star.

Take a read through their product here http://www.factorypro.com/products/F...Pro_shift.html
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Old 08-07-10, 01:16 PM   #19
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When I was building my SV track bike I was ready to throw in the K5 upgrade as I heard so many problems with false neutrals on SV's but I have never had one yet and the gearbox is surprising superslick.
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Old 08-07-10, 03:49 PM   #20
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I switch up or apply the brake to slow the clutch drag.
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