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Old 25-07-10, 10:06 PM   #11
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Default Re: Is this a car paint mismatch??

So the boot hasnt been done and it matches the bumper.
I can't see how the original bumper could have been a good colour match to both panels???

Maybe your original bumper was pretty close to the colour it is now but you han't noticed.

Wulfie is a sprayer, I'll direct him this way to give comment.
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Old 27-07-10, 11:03 PM   #12
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Haggis sent me a message about your colour match prob.

And Im sorry to say that by the photo that its not a botch job it is the plastic surface being put right up agenst the metal of the quater, compared to it being put agenst the plastic trim of the boot lid the match is fine - plastic on plastic

9/10 times resprays on plastic items will be lighter or darker than on metal I dont know why but it just is, Even if you reprayed the metal it is next to witht he same batch of mixed paint it will prob not match.

I have try'd myself at work with darker primers ...ect to stop this happaning and there is no way around it! Also it depends on the colour of your car aka- some colours match better than other's like non metallic's and well ....black heh.

Now if you all think im just talkin a loada crap lol
Im a fully trained volkswagen paint technician and have been working for about 5 years now.

hope this helps you in deciding what to do but all i can see is the car would go back and you'd prob get the same results again.... sorry.

good luck!!

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Old 28-07-10, 08:58 AM   #13
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shouldnt matter whether the codes match or not, the final colour is different and the sprayer should match the finished plastics to the car, if that means he has to spray the bumper a lighter darker colour than the code then thats what he has to do.

"thats how the code comes out" is garage speak for "we couldnt be bothered to make it match, and this is our get out"

most bodyshops that give a 5hit wouldnt let a car go out like that
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Old 28-07-10, 09:35 AM   #14
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Hi

Haggis sent me a message about your colour match prob.

And Im sorry to say that by the photo that its not a botch job it is the plastic surface being put right up agenst the metal of the quater, compared to it being put agenst the plastic trim of the boot lid the match is fine - plastic on plastic

9/10 times resprays on plastic items will be lighter or darker than on metal I dont know why but it just is, Even if you reprayed the metal it is next to witht he same batch of mixed paint it will prob not match.

I have try'd myself at work with darker primers ...ect to stop this happaning and there is no way around it! Also it depends on the colour of your car aka- some colours match better than other's like non metallic's and well ....black heh.

Now if you all think im just talkin a loada crap lol
Im a fully trained volkswagen paint technician and have been working for about 5 years now.

hope this helps you in deciding what to do but all i can see is the car would go back and you'd prob get the same results again.... sorry.

good luck!!

wulfie.
Thank you for your reply, Wulfie.

I do appreciate that you have taken time out to answer the. Question.

I spoke to a Citroen paint tech who has done a quick visual check. His opinion is similiar to yours.

However...he has said that a better colour match is possible although 100% colour match ain't happening.

Should one argue the toss?
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Old 28-07-10, 02:05 PM   #15
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yes , its not a match, all theyve done is match the codes, the codes are to get them in the right ball park,
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Old 28-07-10, 09:55 PM   #16
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shouldnt matter whether the codes match or not, the final colour is different and the sprayer should match the finished plastics to the car, if that means he has to spray the bumper a lighter darker colour than the code then thats what he has to do.

"thats how the code comes out" is garage speak for "we couldnt be bothered to make it match, and this is our get out"

most bodyshops that give a 5hit wouldnt let a car go out like that
Thank you very mutch for pointing out that myself and most my work coulleges are a buntch of spanner weilding A*se twits? im sorry but can you respray a car?

I take my job really seriousley and I do all my work with care and pride just to come on and read this drivil......what a put down.

nways.......................

Yes most paint code's have various shade's of that code E.g - la7w is reflex silver for vw/audi

la7w is the code and for that code there are about 7 different shades of that silver to chose from.

Even if the piant guy pick a totally different shade there is no guarantee that it will come out right.

I would say take the car back get them to find the closest shade to the colour of the paintwork on the quarter and see how it turns out.
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Old 28-07-10, 10:04 PM   #17
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my beemer plastic bumpers look diff to the bodywork, normally noticeable after a polish in good sunlight.
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Old 29-07-10, 06:36 AM   #18
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I agree with wulfie ...

I had a nearly new audi a few years ago in silver & the front & rear plastic bumpers looked a different shade to the rest of the car.

I took it back thinking it had had a poorly matched paint job on the bumpers ...
and they showed me several other Audis on the forecourt [ main dealer] in different colours and to be fair none of the painted bumpers looked quite the same shade as the rest of the car on any of them ... but I would take it back and say is this really as good as you can get it ?
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Old 29-07-10, 08:29 AM   #19
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Interesting to point out that the respray happened at a general repair centre.

Not a Citroën only garage....although its Citroen approved.

So the tech would have had no everyday experience with the colour...unlike a one type only engineer.

Just a thought.
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Old 29-07-10, 09:33 AM   #20
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a point that hasn't been mentioned yet... just because the code is known and that paint is said to have been mixed to it, doesnt mean its right. it comon for codes to be mixed incorrectly and i myself had had this problem twice. On two occasions i've have a tin mixed up by one place, sprayed it and the colour was way out, i went elsewhere and they've got the match bang on even tho i gave the same codes. you'll find that spray shops that mix the colours themselves get better matches than those that buy the mixes in
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