Student protests in Westminster LIVE right now!

find it self defeating that these peaceful protests end up with property being damaged and public disorder-never a good way to get joe public on your side

[MisterTommyH]

Originally Posted by Ed

On the wider issue, I think the Government is acting disgracefully. They recouped the cost of my higher education many times through all the higher rate tax I paid.

Trouble is that a lot of todays University Students will never pay the higher rate tax (if the even pay any).

The last lots "everyone should go to uni" scheme means that there is huge competition for every graduate job so many of them will go to jobs that don't require degrees (not that that means they won't earn good money, but there's a link there somewhere).

Plus a lot of them are doing degrees that just aren't applicable to more than a handful of jobs.

Bloody students...

[Dave20046]

twazzocks

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by 454697819

just be grateful they are poor students and cant afford petrol

Never know if they have a whip round they might be able to afford a gallon or so between them, I wouldn't get my hopes up though...

Originally Posted by Tommy H

Plus a lot of them are doing degrees that just aren't applicable to more than a handful of jobs.

Or degrees in wacky stuff that's of no use. Get rid of all the yoghurt knitting degrees, that may help.

Also, dare I say it but some uni's should really rethink their management. Maybe academics aren't the best people to run multi-million pound businesses.

[Bibio]

i think university's should have tough entrance exams. the amount of complete thickos that were there when i attended was unbelievable. those that pass the entrance exams should get free education but pay 2% on top of their wage (for life) to pay for future students.

jeeeez i was in a remedial class at school but they still let me in at uni, what does that say. before you say it yes i'm thick but not half as bad as some of the students i encountered.

Originally Posted by Jamesy D

Bloody students...

I concour..

More fee's means less uni dossers and might actually make their degree's worth something.

[timwilky]

I am the product of a society and time were an educated workforce was wanted and valued. I received a full grant, sponsorship, proper vacation employment and use of my employers labs/ computers that were light years ahead of the universities.

I am also the father of a kid that has done a LLB and LLM in law and cannot get a decent job.

I am therefore disgusted that students will be expected to pay £6-9,000/year for a degree that will leave them with a lifetime debt that many will never get to pay off. This is socially divisive. Only the children of the rich will be able to afford higher education. I paid for my daughters university, I did not want her stuck with debt at a time she may be thinking about marriage/children etc. I could afford that, but it hurt. Middle class parents are again being targeted as they will be the ones who end up paying. Thank god only one of my three kids went.

So strangely enough, I support the students protesting. I think the Brown report got it wrong. Unfortunately government has been getting it wrong for decades. We encourage school leavers into further/higher education and issue dumbed down qualification in meaningless subjects as a way of delaying the inevitable when the poor student joins the dole queue. Thus devaluing the attainment of a proper degree earned through hard work, study and application. So government wants huge number of kids in higher education, but admits they cannot afford it. They want people to work longer slowing down the rate of vacancies on the lower rungs of corporate ladders etc. that the graduates are trying to climb onto.

So students protest loud and be heard. But the stupid antics of wrecking the conservative party offices etc are way out of line and do you no favours.

[Dave20046]

Knowing a good number of today's students, most who are doing a mickey mouse degree, on their 3rd 'first' year or simply just took out the maximum amount of loan possible to have a bit of fun with/do up the house with...and then also knowing that around 10% of every £1 of student debt is subsidised by the tax payer I find it a little rich.
Not saying they should be paying the inflated fees, but something should be done to generally re-jig it so it benefits both the country and the individuals/students ...and weeds out the wasters.

I did a Mickey Mouse degree in Journalism a decade ago and it was a complete waste of time and money. I support going to university - IF it will be to do something useful or to get the knowledge needed for a specific profession. Going for a three year ****up and shagfest is quite another thing.