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Old 28-04-13, 09:09 AM   #11
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Gods don't kill people
... people with gods do

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Old 28-04-13, 09:47 AM   #12
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Religion was the original 'politics', Mac.
If you think that it is just Islam that is causing grief in this world today you need to open your eyes......
Judaism and Christianity are just as bad.
Do not dismiss history, times change people don't. The same mistakes are being made now tha were made 1000's of years ago and they will be made 1000's of years into the future......
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Old 28-04-13, 10:01 AM   #13
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The world is full of Jewish and Christian suicide bombers attacking Muslims---------think not.
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Old 28-04-13, 10:10 AM   #14
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The world is full of Jewish and Christian suicide bombers attacking Muslims---------think not.
No mate, the Jews have fast jets, armour and artillery superiority and nuclear arms... they don't need the kamikaze tictacs.

And it wasn't long ago that our home grown "religious" fanatics were blowing stuff up over here under the guise of being catholic. Fair enough they weren't that stupid to take themselves out at the same time.
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Old 28-04-13, 10:17 AM   #15
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The world is full of Jewish and Christian suicide bombers attacking Muslims---------think not.
Jews and Christians don't need suicide bombers when they have money guns, ships and aeroplanes.


The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is a point of view.
If someone invaded your country you'd be fighting with everything at your disposal. What would you call yourselves?
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Old 28-04-13, 10:27 AM   #16
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The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is a point of view.
Like some groups of Jews in the 30-40s, they used terrorist tactics but were apparently "freedom fighters", the ANC... the lesson obviously being something like history is written by the winners.

Some guardian reading c***s would probably be calling the ra freedom fighters if given half a chance.


Not forgetting the biggest irony of all that these terrorists in Afghan are the same bunch that were freedom fighters a few years ago when we were supplying and training them to give Ivan a bit of a shoeing.
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Old 28-04-13, 10:40 AM   #17
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The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is a point of view.
If someone invaded your country you'd be fighting with everything at your disposal. What would you call yourselves?
The difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is a legitimate military target.

If you can't work that out I hope you never go to war.
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Old 28-04-13, 10:50 AM   #18
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Who gets to define this?
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Old 28-04-13, 10:54 AM   #19
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There's rather a lot of international law devoted to that subject but to most laypeople (myself included) It ought to be obvious on a case by case basis.

A tank factory is a legitimate target, a gas cooker factory is not even if they supply cookers to the military.


A school bus or a marathon definitely isn't.
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Old 28-04-13, 11:42 AM   #20
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No mate, the Jews have fast jets, armour and artillery superiority and nuclear arms... they don't need the kamikaze tictacs.

And it wasn't long ago that our home grown "religious" fanatics were blowing stuff up over here under the guise of being catholic. Fair enough they weren't that stupid to take themselves out at the same time.
This!

The Israeli Jews have committed atrocities on par with Hitler (another one who used Religion as ammunition). Jew's were the most persecuted religion up to around 1950.
People wonder why Iran (a Muslim state hated by Israel) is building Nuclear weapons, they aren't for offence its deterrent against a state that would press the "little red button"
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