Self incrimination (speed cameras) illegal?

Originally Posted by northwind

"Fine, can't do you for speeding, we'll do you for not knowing who was driving".

"It was borrowed without my knowledge and subsequently returned by person or persons unknown, Officer."

Originally Posted by Jabba

"It was borrowed without my knowledge and subsequently returned by person or persons unknown, Officer."

"so it was taken with out the owners concent.. so are you saying your car was twocked sir... thats a very serious offence if your lying and ill fine you for that.. say £60 and 3 points?"

[northwind]

When did you report the vehicle stolen, sir? You keep the keys in your possession? I presume you do lock it, sir? Where was the damage repaired? Have receipts for that? etc

But I take your point. We're going from "innocent till proven" to "innocent till probably guilty". It's not so much having to say "Yes, I'm guilty", it's not being allowed to say "I don't know".

Originally Posted by 454697819

"so it was taken with out the owners concent.. so are you saying your car was twocked sir... thats a very serious offence if your lying and ill fine you for that.. say £60 and 3 points?"

"I have given my wife, my sons, their girlfriends, my brothers, their wives and offspring and members of SV650.org permission to use my car when it's not in use....... could have been anyone of them. I leave the car unlocked and the keys on top of the sun-visor and anyone that I've given permission will know this.

It's not a crime to leave your car unlocked in this way. Over to you, Officer."

Originally Posted by Jabba

"I have given my wife, my sons, their girlfriends, my brothers, their wives and offspring and members of SV650.org permission to use my car when it's not in use....... could have been anyone of them. I leave the car unlocked and the keys on top of the sun-visor and anyone that I've given permission will know this.

It's not a crime to leave your car unlocked in this way. Over to you, Officer."

"Ah, but that will invalidate your comprehensive insurance sir, have you driven your vehicle recently, or has anyone driven under your policy? If so, we'll do you for driving without insurance"

Originally Posted by northwind

But I take your point. We're going from "innocent till proven" to "innocent till probably guilty". It's not so much having to say "Yes, I'm guilty", it's not being allowed to say "I don't know".

Isn't that way in civil courts anyway? Innocent until the balance of probably says you're guilty?

Originally Posted by Flamin_Squirrel

Isn't that way in civil courts anyway? Innocent until the balance of probably says you're guilty?

Yes it is, but this is subject to criminal (rather than civil) law and the "beyond reasonable doubt" test.

Originally Posted by Baph

"Ah, but that will invalidate your comprehensive insurance sir, have you driven your vehicle recently, or has anyone driven under your policy? If so, we'll do you for driving without insurance"

"I've made it clear that, other than for my wife who's covered on my policy, anyone who drives my car is responsible for their own insurance. If you find out who drove it then you can check that they were insured directly with them, Officer."

Originally Posted by Baph

"Ah, but that will invalidate your comprehensive insurance sir, have you driven your vehicle recently, or has anyone driven under your policy? If so, we'll do you for driving without insurance"

My car is left unlocked in a locked garage????
Keys were in my house, of which I have frequent friends visit. Anyone could have borrow the car whilst i was out at work

Also, the Truvalo camera, should I fear them being front facing.

They've just introduced the camera on a stretch of road I use every day. Its scheduled for the next 1.5 years.

Along the "tight" section (turning 3 lanes into 1.5 lanes) i will stick to the limits, its unsafe and un-fair on the workman (hey, they chose that career, but thats another debate ), but after this, the roadworks stop, but the cameras go on for another mile or two after??? I can see work being done on this part at a later date, but they've got a lot of other work to do first.

I travel up to "cough" motorway speeds again as its perfectly safe, no workman, no equipment, just a few cones on the grass. Oh, and the speed cameras....... At these camera points, i like to do a "fuel tank" check where i look down at my fuel tank, eerrr, to check its still there.

Should I be concerned (daily use)?

Please be aware that all this may be false and can in no way be used against me in a court of law, as i may just be writing all this in a fictional way