oil change (do i need...)

strangely though, when you get emailed about new posts, some of the obscenities are blanked, and some others (tw** especially caught my eye) aren't.

[Biker Biggles]

Its a American censor I believe so only words that are naughty over the pond get removed.Hence you can write wank which means nothing to Americans.

anyway, back to motorcycles - i tried to do my first oil change (at 8000 miles) and neither I or my neighbour (a qualified car mechanic) could undo the sump bolt. The dealer did the 4k service, but i thought the bolt should only be about 20Nm?

I have tried a 14mm spanner and a set of mole grips, and it is near impossible to undo (am going to try with a full socket set tomorrow), or should i just take it back to the dealer? The only thing is i've already bought the oil.

Thoughts?

mole grips will butcher the nut,

it should not be that tight?

Originally Posted by Caddy2000

look - you can't say

t****
w****
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f****
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or
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but you can say

********!

Sommat isn't right here......

That's no basis for a system of censorship

It really is /that/ tight. I take it that's not normal....

Originally Posted by richbeales

strangely though, when you get emailed about new posts, some of the obscenities are blanked, and some others (tw** especially caught my eye) aren't.

Yeah it is prob American censorship cuz there tw@ means something like twit hear and the meaning of tw@ here over there is with an "o" I know, cuz I'm a ham shank, er'um I mean Yank

Make sure you're turning it the correct way

If they've overtightened it, then take it back to them and complain, if they get it undone, the oil comes out, then ask how are you going to ride it back with no oil in it. = free oil change (possibly ).

Originally Posted by richbeales

Hey, first off, apologies for the title, I know this has been covered many many times before, but i still (who would've thought it) have a question...

Can you do an oil change (easily) without a paddock stand?

I was almost tempted to take it to the local garage to do it, but they want £70(!!!), so i'm determined to do it myself.

As long as you have a beautiful assistant or just careful yourself, changing oil without a paddock stand is no problem.

Just pop the filter off and sump bolt whilst your assistant sits on the bike same with the top-up (to get the level correct the bike needs to be upright).

If you are assistant-less, then you can daring on the sidestand and then hold it upright yourself for the last few bits ... checking the level needs abit of care that the bike doesn't start to topple toward you

[Biker Biggles]

Get the dealer to sort the sump bolt if it's been overtightened.First ensure that you are undoing the correct bolt,but if you are,then bear in mind that if you strip the threads in the crankcase you may need a total engine out/strip to fix it.