jobs worths

[Biker Biggles]

Whilst I use the "Lissa method"and take a jug of warm water out,and I have no sympathy with the "its not possible"nonsense I do think there is an element of police arrogance here.The car could not be stolen because it was locked,and posed no threat to anyone other than its carbon emmissions while heating up,so common sense should prevail.It irks me that to avoid a fine you need to "have a good attitude" (grovel?)and any form of answering back is unacceptable.Thats abuse of power in my book.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Spiderman

For sheer stupidity and arrogance they should give him a one week driving ban. Let him stand at bus stops and train stations for a week and i bet you he'll never think its too bloody cold to sit in his car for under a minute while it warms up and defrosts.

Muppet.

And if he should complain zat ze trains are too crowded zen he vill be shot!

[timwilky]

Wilderswood is a quite little estate full of arsey individuals who like the idea of living in the "village". To be a Whittler your grandparents must have been from the village. So we can presume he would have been a t0sser in the first place.

By all means plod should have told him the error of his ways. and then leave him to get his car nicked. Stupid fixed penalties like this simply alienate people and serve no purpose except to feed the statistics, crime reported, crime solved. crime punished by way of a fix penalty.

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

The car.....posed no threat to anyone other than its carbon emmissions while heating up,so common sense should prevail.

Here's a guy who I rarely - if ever - disagree with...except today!

For those who are engineers, would you leave a lathe or a mill spinning at a few hundred rpm whilst you went for a tea break? For those who are chefs, do you leave a few frying pans heating on the stove whilst you pop off down the market? No you don't!

And the Law says you can't leave something with a load of bhp and torque running on the road, unattended. In fact, it's even MORE dangerous when someone can't get into it to shut it off in an emergency....it's why buses etc have emergency "engine off" switches on the OUTSIDE, marked with a big sign! Never mind theft, every year people die, run over by their own vehicles.

As to this person's response, when did Britain get so up its own bottom that its populace can't remeber to occasionally say "Yeah, you're right. Sorry pal"? The Old Bill must get racked off with abuse and excuses too...if they respond, it just shows they are in fact HUMAN (thank goodness!).

[yorkie_chris]

How is a car going to jump into gear, release its own brakes and set off down the road?

Somebody would also have to go well out of their way to hurt themselves on the car

[the_lone_wolf]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Somebody would also have to go well out of their way to hurt themselves on the car

yes, but because someone out there is probably stupid enough to stick their car in gear and jump out to check the oil we have to make it illegal for anyone to do anything that might have the slightest possibility of resulting in the situation occurring

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by Ol Boc

As to this person's response, when did Britain get so up its own bottom that its populace can't remeber to occasionally say "Yeah, you're right. Sorry pal"? The Old Bill must get racked off with abuse and excuses too...if they respond, it just shows they are in fact HUMAN (thank goodness!).

Though I do agree with that bit

[21QUEST]

I agree entirely with those who say, the guy must be a prat(polite version). I don't think the copper was being a 'jobs worth' at all......I've met a few and certainly doesn't sound like the case here IMO.

For me, Ol Bocs last post, hit the nail, squarely on the head.


Ben

[Spiderman]

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

And if he should complain zat ze trains are too crowded zen he vill be shot!

Abso -bloody- lutely right i would

Originally Posted by timwilky

....
By all means plod should have told him the error of his ways. and then leave him to get his car nicked. Stupid fixed penalties like this simply alienate people and serve no purpose except to feed the statistics, crime reported, crime solved. crime punished by way of a fix penalty.

Hit the nail on the head there mate. Sometimes some coppers, (even if you pass their invaluable attitude tests ) just cant leave it alone and want to get the stats in their favour...at the cost of pee-ing off the general public.

Originally Posted by Ol Boc

As to this person's response, when did Britain get so up its own bottom that its populace can't remeber to occasionally say "Yeah, you're right. Sorry pal"? The Old Bill must get racked off with abuse and excuses too...if they respond, it just shows they are in fact HUMAN (thank goodness!).

You're right .... to a point. Ive been in the situation where i genuinely didnt know i'd done something wrong and would the copper leave it after i said what you suggest? No he bloody wouldnt. And this was a simple rear light not working.
No matter how much i reasoned with him that i'd only know about it if someone pointed it out like he just had he wanted to gibve me a fine and points!!!
I even offered to take a producer and he could write on the producer that my lights must be checked and i'd buy some bulbs on the way home and then attend his station to prove i'd done it and i'm a resonsible kinda guy.
Did he leave it? Did he fek! 3 points and a fine was all he had on the brain.

Sad little scroats some of them who simply abuse their powers and give the decent ones a bad name.

Decent ones being the type who took over a footchase for me last Friday and caught the guy when i'd run out of puff and all but given up.
He went a long way to help restore my faith in the

[Biker Biggles]

It probably has an engine runlock on it.On our trucks this system fails safe in that as soon as anything is touched that could allow it to move it cuts out unless the driver has unlocked it.
That wasnt really my point though.I was raising the thorny issue of the police "attitude test"and how that works.We all want common sense and human judgement to be used,but it cant be right that whether you get done or not depends on if the copper was in a good mood or your bust size for that matter.