Michael Collins the 140mph biker

It seems like a harsh punishment, especially when other worse crimes seem to carry lower punishments, but he did double the speed limit and topped 125mph, so its his own fault!

Originally Posted by neillfergie

They held me until I appeared in court, where I pleaded guilty because that was the advice that was given to me by the legal representation that the police provided me with.




Discuss?

One other point, the Police do NOT provide anyone with a solicitor. If a person asks for a specific solicitor/company then they are contacted. If somone asks for the duty, then a call centre is contacted and they contact the next solicitor on the call out rota. Any solicitor provided is TOTALLY independant of the Police, the Crown Prosecution service and the courts.

If this chap is to belived then why aren't we opening our newspapers to read of yet another legal landmark case at the High Court in London about human/legal rights where the POLICE solicitor made someone plead guilty. I wasn't aware that the National Socialist Workers party led by that nice Austrian chappie Herr A. Hitler had come to power.

Serves him right-that fact that he reckons he kept going faster as he thought the cbr was going to rear end him??? Ermmm why not just pull over and let them pass then!

Didn't he think twice after popping into the station and the bike happened to be waiting there for him on the way out??? Would have been a different story if the copper had fallen off while trying to keep up?

[TimTucker]

He makes it sound like this kind of behaviour was a one-off. But why was an unmarked bike waiting to follow him into work? I recall reading on the thread with the original video footage this was because there had been persistent reports about this guy and his regular speeding on this route.

I have no sympathy for him at all.

[SoulKiss]

He got what he deserved.

However.....

1) Surely if it was "intelligence based" they could have just recorded the time he left home, then recorded the time he got to work then done him on the average, no need for the copper to ride like a **** to get him on video.

2) The cops should have pulled him when he was observed doing the 1st illegal maneouver instead of allowing him to incriminate himself further - that may be ok when observing someone carrying out a burglary.drugs deal, but as this put members of the public at risk. At the very least they should have ended it at the petrol station when he was filling up - the cop could have gotten him alone, never mind needing backup.

Some VERY dodgy policing done there in my opinion.

I imagine the police bike following him had been instructed to follow him and gather evidence of his riding but not to intervene.

its borderline entrapment though cos the cops presence may have spurred him on to ride faster as you do if there are other bikes around you.

Still the fact remains that his riding was appalling (as was the cops) and getting caught doing it is by far better for him than being involved in a TA whilst riding like that.

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

The comparison with the heroin dealer cuts both ways. Both he and the dealer are ultimately endangering other people's lives. But can't the heroin dealer argue that he only endangers the lives of people who have chosen to endanger their lives?

Yeah you could also argue that if the guy on the bike comes a cropper then chances are he'll be the only one injured/killed. Compared to how much damage £1500 worth of filthy scagheads can do.

The whole thing stinks, the video showed a degree of arrogance from the copper like the "his cornerings terrible" comment as he was being left behind... And the "he's influencing other road users" ... as he was flashing people to move over. Hypocritical tw4t, needs kicking in the tits.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Yeah you could also argue that if the guy on the bike comes a cropper then chances are he'll be the only one injured/killed. Compared to how much damage £1500 worth of filthy scagheads can do.

The whole thing stinks, the video showed a degree of arrogance from the copper like the "his cornerings terrible" comment as he was being left behind... And the "he's influencing other road users" ... as he was flashing people to move over. Hypocritical tw4t, needs kicking in the tits.

Sorry, but I find that comment way out of order. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and some may see the cop as being hypocritical, but to make a childish comment like that in what up to now has been a reasoned, sensible discussion....................................

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave

What he fails to truthfully mention is the way he acted when he was caught, the police will treat you in accordance to the manor you are perceived when you are apprehended.

+ 1 my initial thought was that his manner must have been threatening or argumentative in order to spend the night in the cell, I wondered if that was in order to make him calm down and think!

He does come across as a little arrogant and more fool him for not slowing down when he realised he was being followed!