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Old 27-02-09, 05:37 PM   #21
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Default Re: Starter problem with Quinten the Chinese motorcycle.

Will check all of this tomorrow after my 10 hour round trip to Wigan to pick up my track bike.

Cheers for all your input peeps, I'll keep you updated.

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Old 08-04-09, 07:36 AM   #22
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Well, I finally got around to checking the bike over. I charged it on the optimate (optimate says the battery's fine), push starter and get only a click. I jumped out the starter and get a strange wiring noise but the starter isn't trying to start the bike.

Does this mean I've fubar'd the starter by dismantling it anbd that the solenoid was the original culprit for the breakdown??

Any ideas?

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Old 08-04-09, 08:07 AM   #23
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Sounds the same as the SR. Have to give that a gentle knock with a hammer and she fires. Let me know how you get on.
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Old 08-04-09, 09:41 AM   #24
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Default Re: Starter problem with Quinten the Chinese motorcycle.

Couple of things spring to mind, quality and durability are somewhat lower generally on these machines, so componant failure isn't uncommon.

How old is it ?

standard check list;

battery/ you say is fine
solenoid/ makes a clicking noise

startermotor given a direct feed from + on battery/ does it turn ?

remove starter from bike, from a battery - (earth the outer casing) & + the terminal on top/ does it turn ?

I'll make a presumtion here it's probably a clone of a denso one, so on the startermotor (removed from the bike) two bolts will run the length of it (internally) undo these, take off the end cap, then you'll be able to extract the central part (armature), looking down the inside of the casing you'll see a round or half round small circuit board with the brushes attached, you should be able to seperate the main body from the other end cap with the circuit board in now, three things to check here 1. check the brushes are in good condition, 2. the contacts at the base of the armature are also good, 3. the electrical contact from the outside terminal(+ postive) is isolated from the body of the startermotor (undo the 10mm nut on the outside terminal, the bolt bit should go threw an isolator of some kind, either rubber or plastic, stopping it touching the main body (which is obviously the - (earth)), and to a wire or braid which in turn leads to the circuit board, if either the isolator or wire/braid is broken it won't work, it's possible to re solder the wire/braid, and should it be the isolator a piece of innertube rubber cut to shape will do the job.

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Edit: found this which might help.

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Old 08-04-09, 01:34 PM   #25
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Sounds the same as the SR. Have to give that a gentle knock with a hammer and she fires. Let me know how you get on.
I used to own a very old Ford Escort and the only way to get starter
turning was to give it a knock. My mechanic provided me with a
strange device for this purpose: a weight attached to a stick by
spring. Every time I left work I had to ask someone to poke the
starter with this weight while I was turning the ignition key.
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Old 08-04-09, 07:06 PM   #26
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Cheers all.

As mentioned, the starter has been stripped and check and looks mint inside (took me ten mins to strip and 2 hours to put back together again!), the solenoid clicks but doesn't make the starter whir, if you short the solenoid the starter whirs but doesn't turn the engine over.

This doesn't seem to narrow it down for me!

Either the battery deasn't have enough power, despite the optimate telling me otherwise, the solenoid has given up, the starter is fubar'd or a combination of the above.

Will have to investigate further tomorrow.

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Old 08-04-09, 07:39 PM   #27
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please post pics off your bike btbh some are worth just putting in the tip .
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Old 08-04-09, 08:46 PM   #28
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It's an 06 plate and it's in very good nick with only 2200km on the clock!
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Old 08-04-09, 08:57 PM   #29
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Here's a pic:

http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.p...ate+125&page=6

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Old 09-04-09, 02:42 PM   #30
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My brother once reassambled a starter motor backwards.... so it spun the wrong way & just whizzed round....
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