Number plate sizes?

[Richie]

Originally Posted by cbay

I.E. with a car, you fail if you have a headlight bulb out, but if you go in the garage in daylight and leave in daylight and state, "I never drive in the dark" then the car will pass with faulty or NO headlight bulb.

I'll have to dissagree with you on that one.

If lights are fitted then they must operate.

Originally Posted by Taipan

Technically if you have a show plate or such like on, it should now fail the MOT.

New checks have been introduced to the MOT Test to ensure the registration plate confirms to the Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001.
These checks will now confirm the following:

• The characters and background colour comply with regulations
• The character font is an a correct type
• The characters are the correct size as is the size of the margin
• The plates are fitted vertically
• The non-reflective border is within the permitted width
• Finally an unacceptable symbol or flag, such as football team crests or logo, is not displayed NOPE.

Also for vehicles registered on or after 1 September 2001 ( i.e 51 plates and later ) the additional checks will also be performed:

• It displays the BSAU 145d marking NOPE
  
• It also displays the name and postcode of the registration plate supplier NOPE
  
• It does not display a honeycomb or similar effect background.

Dual marking (Flag/football team etc, BSAU145d and postcode/suppliers name was nto reintroduced into the MOT test last year. They are a legal requirement but not for test

Originally Posted by lee67

mine failed the mot....cos its got suzuki emblem down side and sv650.org ob bottom.....u cant have any emblem at side now and only thing on bottom must be postcode of maker......and this is an mot place of been going to for many a year and he aint strict....

As above, this was not reintroduced last year. You could suggest the tester re-read section 6.3 again. Also Special Notice 4/2009

Originally Posted by cbay

MOT yes, but that is once a year, so you either swap it or you double sided tape a good size one on for the test as they aren't allowed to touch/mess with anything.

I.E. with a car, you fail if you have a headlight bulb out, but if you go in the garage in daylight and leave in daylight and state, "I never drive in the dark" then the car will pass with faulty or NO headlight bulb.

The introduction to the side (position) light section states
"This inspection applies to all machines except those which have neither front
nor rear position lights, have such lamps permanently disconnected, painted
over or masked that are only used during daylight hours and not used at times
of seriously reduced visibility"

This 'exemption can be found in the start of the section for all lights.
It does state permanently disconnected so if its fitted it must work
Removing the bulb doesnt work unless the entire light unit, switch and wiring is also
removed

Edit, a 'daylight use' vehicle MUST have an audible warning (horn)
HTH

[Stu]

Originally Posted by 7755matt

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Edit, a 'daylight use' vehicle MUST have an audible warning (horn)
HTH

How does that apply to a road legal off road bike with no battery?
Thanks

On a motorbike without a battery it may be necessary to run the engine.

It would also be acceptable to fit a horn powered by it's own battery provided it was loud enough to be heard.

I would argue that to be a road legal off road bike it must have a horn, of one shape or another, certainly for MOT or it would have an exemption in the information column of the manual.

I would also want one, if another road user hadn't seen me I would want a method of signalling my presence

Surely a true off-road bike doesn't need an MOT, and by extension a horn?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by simesb

Surely a true off-road bike doesn't need an MOT, and by extension a horn?

I don't care about a true anything. I would like a road legal off road bike though if that's alright?

Originally Posted by Stu

I don't care about a true anything. I would like a road legal off road bike though if that's alright?

I have no problems with that pal. You'll need a horn though!

[Stu]

Only if I want to be legal. I sometimes get hazy with legal Oh & to pass an MOT

Originally Posted by cbay

MOT yes, but that is once a year, so you either swap it or you double sided tape a good size one on for the test as they aren't allowed to touch/mess with anything.

I.E. with a car, you fail if you have a headlight bulb out, but if you go in the garage in daylight and leave in daylight and state, "I never drive in the dark" then the car will pass with faulty or NO headlight bulb.

I understood that if you had lights fitted they had to work? Same with indicators, but you don't have to have them fitted for daytime mot?


Just re-read up a much more comprehensive post covering this. Sorry!

My plate is small but not to small. Lol 6.5x5 but with big letters have proper plate for not