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Old 17-04-11, 07:05 PM   #21
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To be honest Andy I don't think much cheating, if any, goes on.
I appreciate if you've been in my awning after I've come in and been frustrated at not winning you will have heard me say differently but racers are competitive little *******s and for those few minutes after the helmet comes off, like the footy manager with the microphone stuffed in his face, it's everyones fault but ours.
I can honestly say noone has ever beat me who didn't deserve it and I believe if your a worse rider than me an extra 4 hp isn't going to help you, I'll get past you.
I still want a dyno though
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Old 17-04-11, 07:19 PM   #22
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I know what you mean with the frustration seen it often enough now to be immune.

Your just wanting a run for free!
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Old 17-04-11, 07:57 PM   #23
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Mike reed- if you rode a bike as quick as you took offence you wouldn't have to worry about people tuning their bikes.
HA HA HA HA HA too right !
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Old 17-04-11, 08:55 PM   #24
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I think they should also introduce a weight penalty system too

I'm a big fat man and its not fair that the blokes I'm competing against aren't carrying 7 stone (and sometimes more) of lead on their bike!

There should be a saddle bag system loaded with lard (for realism) and you have to strap your saddle bags on the bike before the race

I'm all for Dyno's at random meetings but what happens if you had your dyno set up dome on a 35 degree summers day and when it happens to be dyno'd at East Fortune in April and its 6 degrees? It would be making a lot more than it did in the summer.

If it were a fiver or a tenner to have it dyno'd at a race meeting I wouldn't object. Probably only those that knew their bike was likely to fail would.

I'd actually like to know what my bike puts out at each race meeting so I can see if it has any bearing on my race results. But that's just the scientist in me. I could probably find a better correlation to the number or beers we drank or the crapiness of the scrubs we're running

Yep, for me, bring on the dyno. It can only be a good thing.

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Old 17-04-11, 09:21 PM   #25
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I'm not a racer, and have no axe to grind here. But if your meetings don't overlap with Bemsee every time would it be worth discussing with their management committee hiring their mobile dyno for a meeting?

There are a couple of reasons for this.

1) Some commercial dynos can overstate horsepower because this is what the customer wants to hear. The Bemsee dyno team are used to testing bikes accurately and that's really what you need.

2) If you're going to pay, it's better to keep the money in club racing. Even if it's not your club.

If you find big discrepancies, that's the evidence you need to push for regular dyno checks. If everyone is below 73 horsepower that's the subject closed.

Just a thought,

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Old 18-04-11, 12:19 PM   #26
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and just an aside to the above. if someone is found to be over that shouldn't mean they can't race, just that they go in the modified section.
and I'd be quite happy to have say a 2BHP disgressionary buffer just in case atmospherics do have an effect.

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Old 18-04-11, 12:52 PM   #27
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Roll out the Dyno tests!
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Old 18-04-11, 01:56 PM   #28
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How would that work with Melville? They don't have a modified class. I think you should run in the thunderbikes with the 1098's to teach you a lesson.
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Old 18-04-11, 02:17 PM   #29
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Yep, fine by me. Last time I tried that...I crashed
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Old 18-04-11, 02:29 PM   #30
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Interesting topic we have here lads, personally I would like to see a dyno at the north east/melville meetings although I think most of us would be bhp legal( some very good riders in our clubs i fink). I have had my bike on a dynojet and now a dynapro dyno showing 69bhp on the first and 63bhp on the dynapro (just a end can, filter and standard mapping) so we would also have to decide which dyno make to go for. re mike reed- i know your bike was set-up on a dynojet dyno so although you may think it is at max bhp for our class others may be using dynapro(quotes lower figures) but i dont wana upset you anymore after that last race at croft haha!!

Also if we enforced the rules to the letter i think we would have nearly no minitwins left at our club- for example tank spacers, dog bone lengths, fork caps, air box snorkels, and Pair system removal(mine is removed is this illegal mike?)(rules mike not mike reed) although it makes no differance to bhp i dont think.
But if we did enforce them i think this would create a much fairer playing field.

Power aint everything anyways i beat a couple rc8s, ducatis and fireblades on sunday at croft in the thunderbikes, Pity i couldnt recreate that form in the minitwins race lol .
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