Is this not a form of racism?

[Biker Biggles]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

I think you're missing my point by only seeing one side of the argument. I don't doubt that seeing someone dressed like that upset some of the customers, and their grief may well have been legitimate in that they either suffered themselves or lost close family in the hands of the SS, or even just that the sight reminded them of the loss suffered by so many others. If they wanted to tell the individual their view and ask him not to dress like that then there's nothing to stop them doing that, or they could walk the other way and ignore him, but what makes them think they are any more entitled to walk around Asda than he is? What they are in effect doing is saying that their view that he shouldn't dress like that is more worthy than his view that he can, and not only are they thinking that but they are also telling others (Asda) to act on their view.

I personally think the bloke is an inconsiderate idiot and I certainly don't for one moment support any of his views, but I recognize that he is entitled to his view and he is allowed to live his life.

You'll get drummed off for being a liberal if you are not careful.
Those sort of views belong to the last century.Now its zero tolerance and "offended of Tonbridge" rules and dont you forget it or your colleages will be dispatched to arrest you forthwith.

[dizzyblonde]

My grandmother is German. She lived in Gerdauen(look it up). She's had Russians firing machine guns from planes at her whilst hiding under a cart in woods. Shes also crossed frozen rivers with said horse and cart hoping the ice wouldn't give way. She fled her home.
She's not overly keen about speaking of the fuerer and his band of evil men. She pays her respects in the country she has called home since it ended. Her husband was English and served his country.

We watched Allo Allo yesterday in fits of giggles. I doubt she would batter an eyelid at meeting a pretend Nazi uniform wearing person.

I don't find it offensive. But then I'm slightly different in view and opinion of certain aspects of warring countries etc. It's certainly not racist

All this soft stuff, I was so upset blah blah. If you're upset and able to, give the bloke a smack in the face and a jackboot in the ribs. If you're not able to do that, go to the Asda cutlery section get a knife and stab him in the ar$e.

He'll get the message right enough. I don't think you should stop anybody wearing what they choose, but if they wear something offensive they should expect a consequence.

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by Biker Biggles

You'll get drummed off for being a liberal if you are not careful.
Those sort of views belong to the last century.Now its zero tolerance and "offended of Tonbridge" rules and dont you forget it or your colleages will be dispatched to arrest you forthwith.

Good point well presented, I promise to be far more radical in future.....

[Fallout]

Originally Posted by The Idle Biker

All this soft stuff, I was so upset blah blah. If you're upset and able to, give the bloke a smack in the face and a jackboot in the ribs. If you're not able to do that, go to the Asda cutlery section get a knife and stab him in the ar$e.

He'll get the message right enough. I don't think you should stop anybody wearing what they choose, but if they wear something offensive they should expect a consequence.

Good point. If everyone who was offended had got together and encircled him and given him masses of verbal abuse, he would've fecked off. I say verbal because obviously smacking him in the face would've been caught on CCTV and got them nicked.

I'd like to see the wannabie SS solider who can withstand a barrage of verbal abuse from a horde of angry grannies.

[Jayneflakes]

No one complained when a certain prince wore an SS uniform did they!?

Actually if some one is silly enough to walk the streets in a Nazi uniform, then good because it does at least show their allegiance to what ever political group happens to be the most Nazi at the moment. Since Tommy left the EDL the already splitting group has suffered with more infighting and some of the more extreme racists have applauded this man.

The big problem with freedom of speech is that it comes with freedom to offend. A while back a Black Metal band called Cradle of Filth got into trouble with the blasphemy laws because they made a T-Shirt that read on the back Jesus is a .... and yes the word was printed in big white letters, but I cannot put it here because so many think that it is highly offensive. Personally I found it really funny and would have had one had they not been withdrawn from sale. The lad wearing the t-shirt was reported to the Police and he was eventually fined under the obscenities law.

If you remove anything that is potentially offensive, then you remove freedom of expression. So although I would not want to wear a uniform associated with the mechanical and brutal murder of over 11 million people, stopping him from wearing it because it is offensive is just heading down the same path as the people he advocates.

One final thought, I have been to the sort of parties where an SS uniform has been worn to great effect, mind you the chap wearing it did have it custom made in rubber and he was having his bottom spanked by a man in a French maids dress, so in a round about kind of way, justice was served!

Originally Posted by Jayneflakes

One final thought, I have been to the sort of parties where an SS uniform has been worn to great effect, mind you the chap wearing it did have it custom made in rubber and he was having his bottom spanked by a man in a French maids dress, so in a round about kind of way, justice was served!

What in gods name where you doing in Gav's garage?!

[BanannaMan]

Originally Posted by Red Herring

I think you're missing my point by only seeing one side of the argument. I don't doubt that seeing someone dressed like that upset some of the customers, and their grief may well have been legitimate in that they either suffered themselves or lost close family in the hands of the SS, or even just that the sight reminded them of the loss suffered by so many others. If they wanted to tell the individual their view and ask him not to dress like that then there's nothing to stop them doing that, or they could walk the other way and ignore him, but what makes them think they are any more entitled to walk around Asda than he is? What they are in effect doing is saying that their view that he shouldn't dress like that is more worthy than his view that he can, and not only are they thinking that but they are also telling others (Asda) to act on their view.

I personally think the bloke is an inconsiderate idiot and I certainly don't for one moment support any of his views, but I recognize that he is entitled to his view and he is allowed to live his life.

As for the customers,
People complain too much. The political correctness of society today has them thinking they shouldn't see or hear anything that offends them in any manor, be it dress, music, political or religious views, etc.
These are the people that would have us all wearing the same uniform, driving the same car, eating the same food, etc.



As for the **** in the Nazi uniform,
I'm sure being kicked out of ASDA made his day!
That's the kind of response people who would wear an SS uniform out in public are looking for.
Probably out bragging to his mates right now!
These are the people who would wear a bone through their nose just to be different.


The rest of us just look at some fool and ignore him.

[Paul the 6th]

in other news, Andy Coulson and Rebekakakahhh brooks had an affair, it has been revealed, after police found 'love letters' on Brooks' computer....

Must be just awful having their most intimate secrets splashed all over the media.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24762474

Originally Posted by 454697819

The point I was making to a degree was if someone went in dressed as Abu Qatada or Ossama bin Ladin and was confronted to leave do you think the person asking would be seen as racist? or would it kick up more of a stink.

in this day and age why does the SS uniform still mean so much?

Depends what you mean.

If they really were dressed as Bin laden with a bin laden mask then no it wouldn't, if you mean an arab guy dressed like bin laden might dress with bin laden's beard then... yes because he's probably dressed as himself not as bin laden.

The SS uniform however IS a uniform and is not a dress worn by anyone other than the SS for any other purpose and "wanting to kill jews" last time I checked, wasn't a race.