M1 speed cameras

[yorkie_chris]

There is a big fookin speed camera sign next to the gantries. But in the usual tactic beloved of scamera partnerships "plaster the signs everywhere so people ignore them"

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

There is a big fookin speed camera sign next to the gantries. But in the usual tactic beloved of scamera partnerships "plaster the signs everywhere so people ignore them"

The scamera partnerships still had to plaster the actual camera in so much hi-viz if you got caught by one you deserved a kick up the **** and an enforced visit to specsavers as well as a speeding fine.

Nick Freeman said in that article he'd represent anyone who got caught by one, and I'll bet his tack would be that the victim wasn't given fair warning.

If this article is true and not just quotes taken out of context/scaremongering (newspapers report on UFO stories too!) then Nick Freeman, the ABD and the AA clearly all agree on the matter.

[yorkie_chris]

Well that's fair enough, do you blast through them at 90?

Like I say, I offer no serious opinion on it other than an unreliable eyewitness account that I've seen them flashing when my side was NSL, and that I personally don't risk it much.

Good info there fordward. I am however 100% certain I set the camera's flash off, and there was absolutely no speed limit displayed. Saw the exact same camera flash again this morning on my way to work, and there were no limits displayed either. I'm starting to think their may be a fault with said camera, where it think it's set at a certain speed when in fact nothing is being displayed. I wasn't going any faster passed the camera that flashed me than the ones that didn't. It's more likely there is the one faulty camera that thinks it's still set at 50, than 19 others that didn't flash me when they should have.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

Well that's fair enough, do you blast through them at 90?.

Not after this thread I don't, not until I've got some clarity on it anyway, I'll be having a chat with the local boys in blue and the local highways agency.

Lets put it this way, the M42 cameras have been active about 4 years, the Nottingham ones probably 18 months to 2 years now, the southern M1 and M6 Birmingham for the best part of a year and the M62 for maybe 2-3 months. I've drive at least one of that lot at least twice a week during the day when the road is clear and the matrix signs switched off, and I've never been flashed or received a ticket.

I'm driving a large rep-mobile, wearing a suit and tie, and on the motorway constantly, so rather than post it on a forum I'll leave you to guess at the speed I routinely cruise at on a dry motorway with clear weather and light traffic. Its the same speed as every other bugger in a rep-mobile only unlike most I like to do it in the correct lane with a lot more stopping distance, and only where its appropriate for the conditions.




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Originally Posted by thulfi

Good info there fordward. I am however 100% certain I set the camera's flash off, and there was absolutely no speed limit displayed. Saw the exact same camera flash again this morning on my way to work, and there were no limits displayed either. I'm starting to think their may be a fault with said camera, where it think it's set at a certain speed when in fact nothing is being displayed. I wasn't going any faster passed the camera that flashed me than the ones that didn't. It's more likely there is the one faulty camera that thinks it's still set at 50, than 19 others that didn't flash me when they should have.

Well if you weren't speeding then yes probably a faulty camera.


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[Littlepeahead]

The end of the world is nigh - they have now introduced speed cameras in Thailand. The one place you would whizz along the motorway doing 160kmph with no fear of getting an envelope 2 weeks later. Now I know this as our tour leader just got a ticket for his pickup, doing 133km in an 80km, but it was a front facing camera and most bikes in Thailand don't even have reg plates on the back so I think I'll be safe over there for a few years yet.

Originally Posted by Fordward

Well if you weren't speeding then yes probably a faulty camera.

Well I wasn't going much above 80 to be honest, but my speed was pretty much constant, yet I only set off the one camera. So it seems a few people have seen or known of the cameras going off at national speed. I think the real question is if anybody knows someone who has actually received points or a fine through the post from being flashed by a camera for breaking national speed on the motorway. I'll post back here in a couple of weeks to let everyone know.

[Traders]

I travel between J14-J12 everyday and there is one camera half way between J13-J12 that flashes constantly, but it doesn't have the camera's fixed as shown in your photo, its to the side near the hard shoulder . I have seen workman several weeks ago looking at this, but it still flashes. Not sure what it does as there are no camera's above the gantry even though there are road marking strips painted on the ground.

Could this be some sort of device that flashes to slow drivers down...

I have been caught out by this and was praying the letter wouldn't arrive..which it never did. phew

Did ask about this (a senior Northants copper) but forgot to come back and update the thread. He said the HA may be using the cameras to survey speeds on the road when the matrix signs are off, hence the flashes, but he very much doubts they will be reporting drivers for speeding in those circumstances unless its a silly speed ie. 100 mph or more. What we have said about camera visibility above is correct, a speed camera sign alone is not enough for a civilian agency to use a camera for speed enforcement, the camera itself needs to be clearly visible and the speed limit has to be displayed.

The easy (but illegal) way to find out of course if the camera is operational is a radar detector.


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