New driving test

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6223887.stm

120 hours is stupid.

I've had about 12 hours and I've got my test on the 9th. You'd have to be a proper nonce to need 120 hours driving experience in order to drive to test standard.

The insurance system is keeping kids out of cars that they can't handle, so surely we have no need for this. You're going to get a few spoiled kids skipping the insurance issue, but the same will happen with the new laws.

Maybe advanced driving should be mandatory, but at a reduced cost.

I don't know why they criticise new drivers so much, when in most of the accidents I've seen, or nearly been in due to the other driver being blind, the drivers were older than the supposed 17-24 group that causes all the accidents.

Originally Posted by Davido

120 hours is stupid.

I've had about 12 hours and I've got my test on the 9th. You'd have to be a proper nonce to need 120 hours driving experience in order to drive to test standard.

Who's talking about "test standard" anyway? Any "proper nonce" can get to "test standard". This is about road safety we're mainly talking here...

Originally Posted by Davido

120 hours is stupid.

I've had about 12 hours and I've got my test on the 9th. You'd have to be a proper nonce to need 120 hours driving experience in order to drive to test standard.

First you learn to pass the test, then you spend the rest of your life learning how to drive/ride. My previously posted opinion takes that into account.

Yep, but most of your learning comes after the test. (That was the way it was for my bike anyway)

I just can't imagine 120 hours of driving before even being allowed out on my own. I can see how it will help having someone there telling you what to do, but then again I'd like to try and figure out what to do in certain situations by myself.

That said, I don't really care as I'll have my livcence before the new laws come in anyway.

Originally Posted by tricky

100 hours is a lot, I imagine at present most people only have 15-25 ?

I had 4!

I had been driving off road for 5 years or so though

Pete

Originally Posted by Ping

100 hrs is excessive imo.

You only need 45 hours (minimum) to get Private Pilots License for christ sake! (OK yeah, there are 5 exams also on top)

Its way over the top.


Pete

...and what about people who hold other categories of license first?

Surly this should apply to all first categories rather than just the car test? And if so, surley there are DAS implications.

This seems completly unworkable to me but i am now gonna make sure i pass my cage this year just in case

Originally Posted by timwilky

ridiculous, I had six lessons before I passed my driving test. My son had 10 and daughter 14. sounds more and more like big brother interfering when there are other areas of road transport that needs more work.

Personally I would like to see less legislation and more enforcement of the laws we currently have. Like actually doing something about drivers who use mobiles. surprisingly speed cameras don't seem able to sort that one out. I would also like to see more drivers actually stopped and faults in their driving explained etc. But I guess we would need more traffic coppers and that seems to be out of the question

Tim good point made well, however i think the government are looking for ways to make the public pay rather than the giant pot of money being spent on more officers. I look at it this way - They put the obstacle in front of people to stop them doing something rather than letting them do it and then trying to control them.
Id love the government to recruit more cops but its never going to happen. To train a traffic officer means having to have enough 24/7 to do the frontline work and even then traffic are expected to assist. They'd rather employ guys who look like police, however are much cheaper and have very little power in an attempt to fool the public. Frankly the public are more than aware of this and the situation isnt getting better.

Originally Posted by robchester

Id love the government to recruit more cops but its never going to happen. To train a traffic officer means having to have enough 24/7 to do the frontline work and even then traffic are expected to assist. They'd rather employ guys who look like police, however are much cheaper and have very little power in an attempt to fool the public. Frankly the public are more than aware of this and the situation isnt getting better.

Rob - very well put.

No they won't recruit more police. Has anyone thought of the army of civils this daft proposal is going to need, and how much more intrusion into personal privacy. Oh yeah, and how much fraud it will create, with all the rest of it - void insurance etc. How to enforce it all... ANPR? - Well maybe. And the cost? How much will the ticket actually cost, cos it will have to be self funding?

Australia is looking ever more attractive