Not quite sure how I feel about this story

i agree with philbut !

[Biker Biggles]

I too wonder if he was a particular type of "burglar" and things got out of hand from there.

Like I say, bit of a fruit loop. With a gun.

...and whats that about not knowing your enemy? The burglars picked on the wrong old man this time! A real nutter with a real gun! Maybe if burglars knew they had a real good chance of getting sliced up when they broke into a house they would earn a living like the rest of us instead of stealing someone elses!!

Oh and throwing someone out of a window? Crime of passion?

Gonna have to wait for more details on this one methinks. Yes you can use reasonable force but throwing someone out of a 4th story window isn't it IMO. Unless of course the burglar was about to stab/shoot the other guy and it was the only way to defend himself.

Otherwise, will be interesting to see 'how' exactly he fell out of the window. Don't think the other guy will have much of a chance if he threw him out without justifiable cause. I think a beating is fair enough but this...

[Ruffy]

My personal view is straightforward:

If someone chooses to take an action that is outlawed by the legal system, then they have implicitly waived their right to protection by the same legal system following a consequential event, i.e. if you start something illegal, don't complain or expect support if the consequences to you are nasty and/or illegal - anything goes!

Unfortunately, this opinion is not the official view of the authorities.

However, in the case of this story, the assumption is that there was a break-in etc., but it's a bit vague. I do know that parts of Chorlton, where this all happened, can be quite dodgy. If it was a break-in, fine, get on with life. If it wasn't, then the surviving guy's actions need investigating. And generally, I also believe that the police know more than they let on throughout an inquiry. Maybe time will tell.

Originally Posted by Ruffy

My personal view is straightforward:

If someone chooses to take an action that is outlawed by the legal system, then they have implicitly waived their right to protection by the same legal system following a consequential event, i.e. if you start something illegal, don't complain or expect support if the consequences to you are nasty and/or illegal - anything goes!

Unfortunately, this opinion is not the official view of the authorities.

So, if someone throws a cigarette but on the street its ok for you to shoot them in the face?

Or, basically, two wrongs == right.

I see where you are coming from alright.

[Ruffy]

Originally Posted by philipMac

So, if someone throws a cigarette butt on the street its ok for you to shoot them in the face?

It's a fair cop: my 1 paragraph isn't quite a fully balanced replacement system (is it more a slip-on end can?) I admit it probably needs some sort of sense check.

But...hmm...why not? - it'd probably mean many less fag ends thrown out of the windows of the car in front!

In Glasgow earlier this year a bloke phoned the polis to report that he had come back to his flat and found a window open and a bloke having a lie down in the alley underneath it...

The dead guy was a convicted housebreaker and the cops didn't even question the flat owner. Crime detected, case closed.

Again in Glasgow, about 10 years ago, me and Mrs Tiger were confronted in our home by a pair of burglars. After a brief, I think the technical term is 'altercation', one escaped and we held the other one till the cops came.

Whether or not I wish I'd thrown that ****er off the landing depends on what mood I'm in, but if I had done I don't think it would be keeping me awake.

Hey Tiger 55 why not include it in the Highland games?
A whole new sport...burglar throwing!

It always bemuses me how people can feel pity and indeed side with the criminal in cases like this or Tony Martin'.

Any criminal is a waste of space/oxygen etc i really can't see the issue with disposing of them.

As for the guy that fell/jumped....if he's a criminal i applaud the guy for launching him out the window!

The muslims have it right on this issue. One offence take a hand and if they persist then just kill them....job done.