Underage pregnancies.

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

When I want to know what it was like to live in a certain decade, or a certain geographical area, I'm all for asking people.

When I want to find out how many babies were born however, I find the hospital records far more accurate. Similarly, if I want to find out how many murders there were on a given year I check police/court records.

Personal experience is great, it's fantastic, it gives a fuller rounder flavour in accounting for a time, but whose experience do you believe? Who has a more accurate picture of the 60s - the person who was 20 at the time, or the person who was 60? The person who lived in London at the time or the person who lived in Hull?

One man saying "my perception is right, everyone else's perception is wrong, I am right for all geographical areas, and what's more I'm more right than hospital birth records and police murder statistics" - that's just talking ******** however old you are.

Judging by all your responses to the OP, you seem pretty bitter about something?

Perhaps it's because you feel deprived having missed the best 2 decades of the last century - 60s and 70s and IMO they were better times to live in, no mobile phones, no telesales calls, no guilt trips for mothers because they did/didn't go to work, no video games/computer/wii etc etc to give you headaches - just good clean fresh air and mudpies for entertainment! and the best thing of all was that parents were allowed control of their kids!

[yorkie_chris]

Originally Posted by MiniMatt

One man saying "my perception is right, everyone else's perception is wrong, I am right for all geographical areas, and what's more I'm more right than hospital birth records and police murder statistics" - that's just talking ******** however old you are.

There are no statistics for the general attitude of people, for that you only need ask the man on the street.

IMO murder stats are not particularly relevant, premeditated murder is more likely to be as a result of utter b0llocks rather than financial need.
For a more representative view, what about muggings?

Some would say the police have just got better at generating statistics and paper.

sorry i get lost with these threads, are we hanging beating or burning this one???

[yorkie_chris]

Beat, hang then burn. I thought you would have got the hang of it by now...

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Originally Posted by Speedy Claire

That is immaterial IMO, whoever is supposed to be responsible for her punishment/rehabilitation/education is obviously not doing too good a job of it. Whether that be through lack of powers/funding etc I don't know

Sorry Chris but it is an extremely relevant point. This thread seems to be discussing underage pregnancy yet the subject of the thread (from what i`ve read) attended a special school and therefore must have had some sort of learning disability. I really don`t think you can compare a situation where a child with learning disabilities becoming pregnant with that of a child with no learning disabilities who becomes pregnant.

Children with learning disabilities have a lack of sexual knowledge. Research suggests that teenagers with learning disabilities are engaging in intimate relationships and sexual contact without adequate sexual knowledge and skills, they feel unable to access support from peers and family and are unclear about the existence of sexual health services. They are taught very basic sex education, and are not taught about underage pregnancy.

Young people with a learning disability need information about values, friendship, dating, love and intimacy and how to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies and sexual exploitation. Research indicates that children with disabilities are four times more likely to be abused than their peers. Inadequate teaching and knowledge surrounding appropriate sexual behaviour and boundaries can leave such youngsters susceptible to becoming victims of sexual abuse and underage pregnancy.

I therefore think that you cannot cite an example of a child attending a special school becoming pregnant and act all outraged regarding underage pregnancy and blaming the parents in the same thread. The reasons for a child with learning disabilities becoming pregnant will more than likely be totally different.

It makes me laugh when people blame the parents. Do any parents here never, ever let their teenager out alone and unacompanied? Can all parents here hand on heart put their hand up and say I know where my teenager is 24 hours a day?

I had what I consider to be a strict upbringing when I was a teenager i`d never have the nerve to say I was going to a party where there`d be boys so I`d lie and say I was going to a friends for a sleepover. Most teenagers will lie about their whereabouts that is a fact. You may think your daughter is at a friends doing homework when in reality she is at a party having her first experience of drinking alcopops and interacting with the opposite sex.

How many people on here will admit to losing their virginity earlier than 16 years of age?? Because those early sexual encounters didn`t result in pregnancy you probably don`t even think about how young you were at the time and what you were risking yet now we`re that bit older and that bit wiser people act all outraged when a person becomes pregnant at such an early age.

[yorkie_chris]

So what are "learning difficulties", does that mean she is a dribbling cabbage, or just that she can't read "war and peace" while taking a dump.

"Blame the parents", well there's 2 ways about it really, you can blame the parents for not keeping their daughter on a leash 24/7, (when I was 15-16, the girls who were kept on a leash at home were always lots of fun, so much for that strategy!).... Or you could blame the parents for not teaching some morals.

I'm sure you will agree that someone brought up by dolescum with no ambition is more likely to end up as dolescum with no ambition.

a crime has been committed here, unlawful sex. seems like we've all forgotten about that.
can someone educate me on that?

[yorkie_chris]

So prosecute the young lass and see what good it does, bit late now. Or try and find the father and see how old he is. Bit late now though...

If the lad is of similar age then what are you going to do?

its now ilegal to kiss on a train station platform, great to have standards.

Originally Posted by yorkie_chris

So prosecute the young lass and see what good it does, bit late now. Or try and find the father and see how old he is. Bit late now though...

If the lad is of similar age then what are you going to do?

so why have an age of concent?