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Originally Posted by metalmonkey

I work in a huge tourist area, I get my photo taken all the time...

yea but ur mug breaks the len's

[Bri w]

Originally Posted by Bri w

We do have the right not to be in a published photograph whether it is taken in public or not.

A photographer is supposed to obtain an image release before putting the photograph up for publication. Individuals also have image rights.

Its not illegal to take the photograph but it is illegal to publish it without permission. Its not something that is often enforced, especially as after the fact you can't unpublish it.

Originally Posted by simesb

Not true. If you are in a place with no expectation of privacy (a street crowd for instance, or street performing) then no release is necessary.

You have a right to photograph but what you do with the photograph is subject to restrictions. The Police do not have a right to stop you taking the photograph, nor do they have the right to ask you to delete the image.

An accredited press photographer has greater rights under law, and it is recommended that freelance photographers join an accredited organisation thus bringing them under the same regulations and freedoms as formally attached photographers.

Don't mistake the apparent freedoms with actual rights under law.

[timwilky]

It doesn't take much searching to find that no compensation has been offered or complaint made. The £3.5k was a totally different case/people etc.

the met say they are investigating this one despite there being no complaint. The kid is considering action

The one thing I did note was reading the kids blog how they had to "spend several hours in hospital due to severe and debilitating back pain"

[Red Herring]

Personally I think the photographer was an obnoxious little squirt who was clearly going out of his to be difficult, that however does not excuse the behavior of the officer who should have known better and risen above it. I've policed loads of demonstrations where you get professional "activists" who know exactly what they can and cannot get away with and set out to deliberately wind up an officer in the hope of getting footage like this. Normally you look out for your less experienced colleagues and make sure they don't get baited, shame there wasn't someone there to look after the inspector..... My verdict, a good example of both professions at their very worst.

[flymo]

this is a point thats crossed my mind every time I watch a programme like Road Wars, often you see people getting agitated by the presence of a TV camera and they are told they have no rights to tell the guy to stop filming them. A number of times the presence of the camera has wound up the person to the point that they have gone on to be arrested for swearing or some other undesirable action.

So its ok to get your pals on TV and to make a programme like that without any regard for the persons preferences but not for some 'obnoxious squirt' to take pictures in a public place?

DP, sorry but I dont agree on the military in public thing. I know its your personal view rather than a right but taking part in a uniformed parade along a street in a public place puts you in a position where you should not be at all surprised to be photographed. If it creates a risk to have military personnel pictured in public then they should never have been there in the first place.

The inspector was raking up excuses to win an argument. The kid may have been a little obnoxious but he had every right to be there in my opinion, good on him for standing his ground.

The photographer wasn't being obnoxious whatsoever regarding the circumstances. He was trying to do his job before being detained for something the police couldn't tell him. Any right-minded person would have been livid.

Originally Posted by flymo

this is a point thats crossed my mind every time I watch a programme like Road Wars, often you see people getting agitated by the presence of a TV camera and they are told they have no rights to tell the guy to stop filming them. A number of times the presence of the camera has wound up the person to the point that they have gone on to be arrested for swearing or some other undesirable action.

So its ok to get your pals on TV and to make a programme like that without any regard for the persons preferences but not for some 'obnoxious squirt' to take pictures in a public place?

DP, sorry but I dont agree on the military in public thing. I know its your personal view rather than a right but taking part in a uniformed parade along a street in a public place puts you in a position where you should not be at all surprised to be photographed. If it creates a risk to have military personnel pictured in public then they should never have been there in the first place.

The inspector was raking up excuses to win an argument. The kid may have been a little obnoxious but he had every right to be there in my opinion, good on him for standing his ground.

Yeh, but you also note that the people who are not happy about it get their faces blanked out...

[Red Herring]

Originally Posted by flymo

this is a point thats crossed my mind every time I watch a programme like Road Wars, often you see people getting agitated by the presence of a TV camera and they are told they have no rights to tell the guy to stop filming them. A number of times the presence of the camera has wound up the person to the point that they have gone on to be arrested for swearing or some other undesirable action.

So its ok to get your pals on TV and to make a programme like that without any regard for the persons preferences but not for some 'obnoxious squirt' to take pictures in a public place?

I work with various TV film crews all the time and we go to great lengths to make sure they don't add to the problem, and I'm not disagreeing with you that the officers were out of order. What I am saying is that the photographer clearly did something that made him the focus of attention which he clearly hasn't shared with us, but that doesn't excuse the officers.

[tigersaw]

All we have is the boys edited audio track and a few chosen images, and have become judge and jury over the incident.
One day he might exercise his right to take pictures of davepreston and the same copper will be called to get the camera out of his a*se