My mate jailed

Originally Posted by husky03

Got what he deserves,those that smuggle tobacco smuggle other stuff also, be it drugs,people etc,so he's contributing to the suffering of others- if he doesn't want to pay tax then he should pi$$ off back to africa -i'm fed up of the lame excuses such as he's from a different culture etc-this is where its went wrong with this country.
no sympathy for him , he should be deported once his sentence is completed.

So what's your remedy for a UK national failnig to pay tax?

(BTW, try being a 40% tax-payer when the Revenue messes it up and taxes you twice! what fun we had trying to sort that one out)

Originally Posted by timwilky

Hmm, reading the responses I guess I am in a minority who see him as a guy that has never hurt anyone, provided work to 6 people and done nothing worse than fiddle his tax.

There are a lot more deserving of jail time than Mustapha. He doesn't drink/womanise etc. So he runs a successful business and get hammered. Keeping your money/savings at home and hidden etc is not so strange if like he, you come from an environment where banks and government cannot be trusted to keep your money safe.



edit, ok jail him for life as they failed to disclose he is also a united fan. Truth is he had been looking after the money in an attempt to buy out the Glaziers

Not sure of your beef Mr Wilky

He was doing stuff and got caught...I suppose you could argue he dont deserve the jail time but anyone in the know will tell you he will be out in a year...if that.

I have no problem with the conviction...not even a little bit.

[QUOTE=CoolGirl;2333122]So what's your remedy for a UK national failnig to pay tax?

Jail-plain and simple-once they have done their time they go back to their community - why should a person who is foreign be allowed to remain in this country after they have commited a crime punishable by imprisonment-if i go and live in the states,canada,oz,thailand etc and end up in jail after doing my time i get sent back to where i came from so why should it be any different here?
Foreigners in ANY country should be aware that their presence there is at that countrys discretion and should they break the laws of that land they get deported- again why should it be any different here?

hence why the uk is often seen as being a soft touch

He has been stealing from all of us that do pay our tax, he has been caught and is being punished for it, seems like the correct outcome to me.

Originally Posted by husky03

Jail-plain and simple-once they have done their time they go back to their community - why should a person who is foreign be allowed to remain in this country after they have commited a crime punishable by imprisonment-if i go and live in the states,canada,oz,thailand etc and end up in jail after doing my time i get sent back to where i came from so why should it be any different here?
Foreigners in ANY country should be aware that their presence there is at that countrys discretion and should they break the laws of that land they get deported- again why should it be any different here?

Making an assumption based on what Mr Wilky said and that there's no report to the contrary, the bloke's been here for 30 years and has resident status, so isn't an illegal immigrant. So, if he were to stay in the UK and pay his taxes like a good boy, plus give back what he owes the state in arrears, how would you feel about that?

Originally Posted by skeetly

Bloody el. Well done!
Don't believe I've ever made enough to pay 40%............

+1
Its getting bloody hard to make decent living lately, my work has been up and down this year, so i wont have to worry about getting to 40% tax limits.
The way things are going i will be paying about a fiver in tax.

I need a career change, this one is a lot of work for not so good gains.

BTW i hear people getting let off with low sentences for a lot worse crimes than tax evasion, so imo its not relative.
Having said that, he may be a criminal, but not the type that would probably be the 'norm' in prisons so why dont they do something like 2000 hours community service instead, less burden on the prison / tax system and he puts back into the community, along with a heavy fine.

Just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by timwilky

Hmm, reading the responses I guess I am in a minority who see him as a guy that has never hurt anyone, provided work to 6 people and done nothing worse than fiddle his tax.

Even the details of the article show that he was doing more than that...

He was convicted of two money laundering offences

Money laundering is certainly not one guy, totally innocent, forgetting to pay his tax bill

Originally Posted by timwilky

Hmm, reading the responses I guess I am in a minority who see him as a guy that has never hurt anyone, provided work to 6 people and done nothing worse than fiddle his tax.

There are a lot more deserving of jail time than Mustapha. He doesn't drink/womanise etc. So he runs a successful business and get hammered. Keeping your money/savings at home and hidden etc is not so strange if like he, you come from an environment where banks and government cannot be trusted to keep your money safe.



edit, ok jail him for life as they failed to disclose he is also a united fan. Truth is he had been looking after the money in an attempt to buy out the Glaziers

On a point of Order, Hitler didn't drink or womanise, so I don't think it's a relevant reason to see the guy in a different light, he runs a succesful business, which is a damn sight easier if you don't pay tax, he may come from a country where you can't trust banks, but he's dealing with a country where for the most part you can trust banks. If he came from a country where you could marry a 12yo, would you see him so sympathetically if he was cohabiting with one here? They guy is living here and thus he has a duty to conform with the laws of the land. He's a crook and he got caught, that's the bottom line. £700k would pay for an awful lot of public services.

Originally Posted by CoolGirl

Making an assumption based on what Mr Wilky said and that there's no report to the contrary, the bloke's been here for 30 years and has resident status, so isn't an illegal immigrant. So, if he were to stay in the UK and pay his taxes like a good boy, plus give back what he owes the state in arrears, how would you feel about that?

How would i feel?-i'd feel it was pointless in jailing him in the first place-i am of the opinion that the punishment given out by the courts should not only punish the guilty but also act as a deterent to others from doing the same- but as has been mentioned before in this thread the differences in the sentencing in this country for different crimes varies from the stupid to the downright shameful at times.
At no point have i or anyone else said this guy was an illegal immigrant, but if he's been here for 30 years or 30 mins i would still deport him out of the uk for commiting a crime punishable by imprisonment.
My bro lives in Thailand and has resident status there, but if he commits a crime where he would go to jail he knows he's on the first plane out the country onces he's served his time-he therefore ensures he lives by the Thai laws-i'd like to see that happening here.

The guys an eejit...

All he had to do was hire a bent accountant who could have happily stashed his cash someone...all perfectly legal...