Jesus and Easter

Originally Posted by thulfi

Religious people who are all up in peoples faces about their beliefs irritates me. Likewise, the same is true for people of no faith.

Nice one Thulfi. tbh the fervent atheists who demand evidence in order to believe in something leave me mystified. They talk about the Universe and nature, and how ridiculous faith sounds. In my view it's all gobsmackingly mystifying, black holes, quantum physics, haydron collider, **** that I can't understand that past the first introduction. Sceptics nod knowingly at whatever Brian Cox and his peers say and pretend they they understand the detail. Feckin jokers. Its all a mystery.

[21QUEST]

As far as I can recall(memory not the best these days :- P), I've never read a post on the forum by a member who happens to be 'religious' , stuffing their 'believes' down anybody's throat.
YET, time and time again, we read a load of blasphemous rubbish posted by 'non believers'....odd, isn't it?

Claire, I swear the world would be a much better place if more folks had as much common sense as you have....there isn't a joke in there by the way

Originally Posted by The Idle Biker

Nice one Thulfi. tbh the fervent atheists who demand evidence in order to believe in something leave me mystified. They talk about the Universe and nature, and how ridiculous faith sounds. In my view it's all gobsmackingly mystifying, black holes, quantum physics, haydron collider, **** that I can't understand that past the first introduction. Sceptics nod knowingly at whatever Brian Cox and his peers say and pretend they they understand the detail. Feckin jokers. Its all a mystery.

No mystery mate, it's pure science, you dont have to understand it all to validate it, that's what we have scientists for.

Personally I couldn't care what religion people want to believe in or what morals they want to live by as a result, what I object to is it being passed off as fact when it clearly isn't.

Tbh, I don't want to be convinced but that's my choice, I've seen too many bad things for there to be a supreme 'being' in control (my opinion anyway).

[21QUEST]

Whenever understanding exists, accepting or rejecting is unnecessary.
The mind that believes, the mind that does not believe and the mind that doubts is an ignorant mind.
The path of wisdom does not lie in believing, not believing or doubting.
The path of wisdom consists in inquiring, analyzing, meditating, experimenting.
Truth is the unknown from moment to moment. Truth has nothing to do with what one believes or stops believing, neither does it have anything to do with skepticism.
Truth is not a matter of accepting or rejecting, it is something to experience, live and understand.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

As far as I can recall(memory not the best these days :- P), I've never read a post on the forum by a member who happens to be 'religious' , stuffing their 'believes' down anybody's throat.
YET, time and time again, we read a load of blasphemous rubbish posted by 'non believers'....odd, isn't it?

Claire, I swear the world would be a much better place if more folks had as much common sense as you have....there isn't a joke in there by the way

For the record I'm not telling you to stop believing but in all my adult life I've never had anyone knock the door trying to convince me to be an atheist, had loads trying to get me to be a Christian and take their magazine booklet.

I'll have some of what he's 21's on, must be strong stuff. Implies that the truth will never be found.

Originally Posted by specialone

Personally I couldn't care what religion people want to believe in or what morals they want to live by as a result, what I object to is it being passed off as fact when it clearly isn't.

But surely if people truly believed their religious beliefs were "fact" then they wouldn`t feel the need to stand on our doorsteps trying to convert us?? they would surely assume that we knew the "facts" and would find something else to do with their time?

[Bri w]

Irrespective of whether or not you believe in a god, the dehumanising of the religion in question and subsequently denigrating it is considered religious persecution and an infringement of an individuals human rights.

Debating science 'v' religion, religion 'v' science is a fascinating exercise. Denigrating a religion and its followers is, at best, shallow.

Originally Posted by 21QUEST

As far as I can recall(memory not the best these days :- P), I've never read a post on the forum by a member who happens to be 'religious' , stuffing their 'believes' down anybody's throat.
YET, time and time again, we read a load of blasphemous rubbish posted by 'non believers'....odd, isn't it?

Claire, I swear the world would be a much better place if more folks had as much common sense as you have....there isn't a joke in there by the way

Thank you so much.. and you`re so right, I don`t think I`ve ever read anything on here from somebody with religious beliefs whereby they`ve tried to stuff their beliefs down our throats. I think the fact that they don`t speaks volumes

[21QUEST]

Originally Posted by specialone

For the record I'm not telling you to stop believing but in all my adult life I've never had anyone knock the door trying to convince me to be an atheist, had loads trying to get me to be a Christian and take their magazine booklet.

I'm not saying you are bud. I was only pointing out a general observation.

I've certainly had people knock on the door and ask if I minded speaking to them. Actually, I've had conversations on the street as well.

Also met,read or heard a few people who on hearing someone say, for example "God was looking over them ..." decide, they have to tell that person who has that believe, how silly it is to think "God had anything to do with it..." .

By the way, I'm not that religious but the rest of my family certainly are.
You could say I'm more of a spiritual being.